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Detachable grip ski poles
"The Real Bev" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: "The Real Bev" wrote in message news:8rchj.236 2a) Don't use the straps at all. Not recommended if you're skiing terrain where you might have to self-arrest, but fine for most situations. I don't use the straps, but they're handy if you have to hang your poles somewhere. I'm aware of the theory of using your poles to self arrest and even tried it once (not all that much call for it where I ski), but I can't figure out how it might be done with your hands through the straps. I guess you might do it with the pole attached to the lower hand just bumping around on its own, but that sounds kind of problematical. Grab the bottom end of one pole with the other hand, then dig it into the snow with both hands, one at the grip and one near the tip. I've saved my butt a few times doing it, once on an icy slope above a significant waterfall. The last time, I broke off the last 8" of the old stainless steel pole. But I did stop. I had skied with those poles for over 30 years. So one pole digs in and the other one just flops around? It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. I would have thought you'd use knees, elbows and chin :-) They are not very effective on ice. Although I do remember wearing the surface off leather jacket elbows on a breakable ice crust once many years ago (on skis). |
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Detachable grip ski poles
The Real Bev wrote:
I'm aware of the theory of using your poles to self arrest and even tried it once (not all that much call for it where I ski), but I can't figure out how it might be done with your hands through the straps. The thing is, if you stuff it on terrain where self arrest is necessary unless your hands are in the straps your poles are probably nowhere in the general vicinity. If you're gonna try to use them to self arrest, you have to have them with you. Otherwise, they're kinda useless. //Walt |
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Detachable grip ski poles
On 2008-01-08 21:44:25 -0700, "DZN" said:
Anyone know where to get these? The make? I saw them once and they looked like a good idea to avoid skier's thumb in a fall. Leki. Find them about anywhere (I just bought a new pair at Christy Sports in Breckenridge). There is a strap that stays attached to your gloves and you snap them into the poles handles, and easily pull out if you catch the pole in a tree or something. They work great. I don't think they would have anything to do with preventing skiers thumb in a fall, though (I would think you could get that falling without poles). Mike... -- Breckenridge Ski Photography: http://BreckenridgeSkiPhotos.com Breckenridge photo ski blog: http://Powderday.us Carpe powder-diem! |
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Detachable grip ski poles
Bob F wrote:
"VtSkier" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: (snip) It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. your point being? Uhmm? When I am snowboarding, I don't have poles to arrest with. Is it that unclear? but you'll have your board, it won't come off like skis might. -- Chris *:-) Rule 1 - Me first Rule 2 - Downhill Good, Uphill BAD! Rule 3 - Skis at the bottom, Head at the top! www.suffolkvikings.org.uk |
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Detachable grip ski poles
VtSkier wrote:
Bob F wrote: "VtSkier" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: (snip) It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. your point being? Uhmm? When I am snowboarding, I don't have poles to arrest with. Is it that unclear? Uhm, no, anti-snowboarder joke in mind. Sorry. Don't worry, a few of us got it! -- ant Don't try to email me! I'm using the latest spammer/scammer's email addy. |
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Detachable grip ski poles
On Jan 9, 8:38*pm, The Real Bev wrote:
Bob F wrote: "The Real Bev" wrote in message news:8rchj..236 2a) Don't use the straps at all. *Not recommended if you're skiing terrain where you might have to self-arrest, but fine for most situations. I don't use the straps, but they're handy if you have to hang your poles somewhere. *I'm aware of the theory of using your poles to self arrest and even tried it once (not all that much call for it where I ski), but I can't figure out how it might be done with your hands through the straps. *I guess you might do it with the pole attached to the lower hand just bumping around on its own, but that sounds kind of problematical. Grab the bottom end of one pole with the other hand, then dig it into the snow with both hands, one at the grip and one near the tip. I've saved my butt a few times doing it, once on an icy slope above a significant waterfall. The last time, I broke off the last 8" of the old stainless steel pole. But I did stop. I had skied with those poles for over 30 years. So one pole digs in and the other one just flops around? Yup, pretty much. It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. I would have thought you'd use knees, elbows and chin :-) On my last big fall on steep terrain, I wasn't able to use my poles to arrest as my left shoulder was dislocated. My left arm was pretty useless and the poles slipped off while sliding. I ended up using my feet, elbow of my right arm, and yes, my chin to self-arrest. Good thing the snow was soft. |
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"MoonMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: "VtSkier" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: (snip) It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. your point being? Uhmm? When I am snowboarding, I don't have poles to arrest with. Is it that unclear? but you'll have your board, it won't come off like skis might. That works a little, but it doesn't have the main advantages of a ski pole arrest - swinging your body downhill of your arms, and consistant breaking. |
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On Jan 9, 5:00*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with.. Most of my snowboarding friends who I spend time with in the backcountry usually bring along an ice axe for really steep terrain where self arrest may be necessary. I've seen films of snowboarders on extreme terrain using two ice axes to help initiate turns. snoig |
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On Jan 10, 11:11*am, "Bob F" wrote:
"MoonMan" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: "VtSkier" wrote in message ... Bob F wrote: (snip) It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. your point being? Uhmm? When I am snowboarding, I don't have poles to arrest with. Is it that unclear? but you'll have your board, it won't come off like skis might. That works a little, but it doesn't have the main advantages of a ski pole arrest - swinging your body downhill of your arms, and consistant breaking..- Hide quoted text - During my brief attempts at snowboarding, I was amazed at how hard it was to use a snowboard to stop a slide on hard-packed snow. It was especially interesting when sliding head-first on my face. Tough to get that toe edge to bite that way. I ended up swinging around and making like a cat on a screen door. Slid all the way to the bottom of the run before I stopped. Wore a couple of holes in the fingers of my gloves. Can't imagine how far I'd have slid on something steeper (it was a blue at Mammoth). I gave snowboarding one more day after that but eventually decided I was better off staying on skis. |
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"snoig" wrote in message ... On Jan 9, 5:00 pm, "Bob F" wrote: It's one of the worries I have about snowboarding - nothing to arrest with. Most of my snowboarding friends who I spend time with in the backcountry usually bring along an ice axe for really steep terrain where self arrest may be necessary. I've seen films of snowboarders on extreme terrain using two ice axes to help initiate turns. Reminds me of my mountaineering oriented first aid class, and "sucking chest wounds". I think I'll pass on the ice axe. I might change my mind if I got into the backcountry a lot. I can't imagine how an ice axe could help initiate turns either. |
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