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Strap binding durability?
I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be
great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is reputable and if I bring them back I could get a full refund and move on to something else, like maybe a Flow. The Flows I looked at seemed plastic-y, though. I chose the Salomon primarily because it seemed so non-pastic-y, and I prefer to upgrade and/or replace on an infrequent basis. Here's what I'm wondering: Is this a fluke? Bad production run on the day the binding was assembled or some weird perfect combination of temperature and twist which means nothing about the over-all quality of this binding? Is this common to this model, and if so, is this a bad thing? Sure seem like that would be bad, unless... Do straps frequently break on all strap bindings? If I stick with straps, should I always have a pocketful of them when I go out? The good news about this strap is that it is very small, atttaching to other structures on each end. Certainly it must be very inexpensive. If straps break frequently this set up looks a lot better than many other designs. Thanks. This board really has helped me learn to think about a lot of stuff. |
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"Paul" wrote in message m... I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is reputable and if I bring them back I could get a full refund and move on to something else, like maybe a Flow. The Flows I looked at seemed plastic-y, though. I chose the Salomon primarily because it seemed so non-pastic-y, and I prefer to upgrade and/or replace on an infrequent basis. Here's what I'm wondering: Is this a fluke? Bad production run on the day the binding was assembled or some weird perfect combination of temperature and twist which means nothing about the over-all quality of this binding? Is this common to this model, and if so, is this a bad thing? Sure seem like that would be bad, unless... Do straps frequently break on all strap bindings? If I stick with straps, should I always have a pocketful of them when I go out? The good news about this strap is that it is very small, atttaching to other structures on each end. Certainly it must be very inexpensive. If straps break frequently this set up looks a lot better than many other designs. Thanks. This board really has helped me learn to think about a lot of stuff. I have late 90's Burton Mission Bindings that I bought of eBay. They came broken and I was just going to buy new straps. Later, I found out they had a recall on the strap because the stitching didn't go through the fabric of the heel strap completely and when you strapped it on, under normal ratcheting, the strap would break. Burton was replacing the straps and I called them and they sent out replacement straps immediately. No charge. -Bruce |
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I don't like Flows as I have seen them frequently have a loose screw
problem, not too familiar with Solomon. I use Ride bindings and have been for the past 6 seasons, they're bulletproof. The 1st pair of Ride's I had, an EX from awhile back, have probably close to 100 days riding and not a problem. Have two other pairs, another newer EX and SPI both of which have never had any problems. I ride hard and have never broken any part of a Ride binding. The big selling point on these is the aluminum baseplate and heelcup. Very stiff, very sturdy. The rest of the binding is built solid as well, their ratchets are awesome. http://www.ridesnowboards.com/ Other than Ride I can reccommend Drake bindings as friends own them and I have ridden them occasionally. Have fun. -Tom "Paul" wrote in message m... I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.566 / Virus Database: 357 - Release Date: 1/22/2004 |
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i, like arvin, ride the salomon sp4 shaped. they're the 03 V2 model
specifically (in blue if you care).. and aside from a highback issue that really isn't causing me any problems, i stand by them. and to be honest, i beat the hell out of my bindings. i've ridden these at least 110+ days so far (all of 02/03 season and now i'm 35+ days into 03/04) and no strap problems at all. i've been really happy actually. i love the combined toe strap system, it works great. i'm currently looking for two more pairs of sp4's or spx's to replace my burton bindings on my other boards, so that should tell you how much i like them. i would guess its a fluke. you never said *where* on the straps, and which strap it was that broke. that might give me some insight. what boots are you rockin? paul Paul wrote: I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is reputable and if I bring them back I could get a full refund and move on to something else, like maybe a Flow. The Flows I looked at seemed plastic-y, though. I chose the Salomon primarily because it seemed so non-pastic-y, and I prefer to upgrade and/or replace on an infrequent basis. Here's what I'm wondering: Is this a fluke? Bad production run on the day the binding was assembled or some weird perfect combination of temperature and twist which means nothing about the over-all quality of this binding? Is this common to this model, and if so, is this a bad thing? Sure seem like that would be bad, unless... Do straps frequently break on all strap bindings? If I stick with straps, should I always have a pocketful of them when I go out? The good news about this strap is that it is very small, atttaching to other structures on each end. Certainly it must be very inexpensive. If straps break frequently this set up looks a lot better than many other designs. Thanks. This board really has helped me learn to think about a lot of stuff. |
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"TomTom" wrote in message news:264Rb.11779$bg1.2724@fed1read05...
I don't like Flows as I have seen them frequently have a loose screw problem, not too familiar with Solomon. Your Salomons are probably okay, just bad luck I'd guess. Straps just break sometimes, as you say probably due to the temperature variations and stresses they undergo. I love my Flows but I've broken a strap on them[1] and as TomTom says bolts have been known to unscrew themselves. You need to keep an eye on them. A few years back, Flows had alumin(i)um baseplates but I think they suffered bending/fracturing problems. Plastic is not necessarily a bad thing. I also think that the effect of a broken strap on a Flow is not as catastrophic as that on regular bindings as there are still three straps holding your boot in. Cheers. Iain. [1] I think it was a choice between the strap and my leg. |
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It's on the rear binding, non-ratcheting side. TomTom rightfully
pointed out that plastic is not necessarily a bad thing, and reminds me that a little bit of knowledge and some unfounded prejudices is not the best position from which to make decision. I took a look at my boot, Salomon Maori, and I have an issue there, too, with an eyelet that is certain to blow prematurely. The boot is very comfy and it makes love to the Salomon binding, at least superficially which is all I have to go on since I can't compare the feel of this set up to anything else other than rental step-ins. I'm super disappointed right now. I won't go into much more detail and instead trust my research and assume I drew the rare short straw, twice, but I'll need a day or two before rational thought carries the day and I go back to the dealer. If there's anything more to be learned from this, keep the posts coming, please. If not, it's not that big of a puzzle (unlike heel side turns for me right now, which is what I want to be thinking about) and thanks for sharing. I put up some pics on my little site: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwef/deleteAfter20040226.htm "paul m" wrote in message ... i, like arvin, ride the salomon sp4 shaped. they're the 03 V2 model specifically (in blue if you care).. and aside from a highback issue that really isn't causing me any problems, i stand by them. and to be honest, i beat the hell out of my bindings. i've ridden these at least 110+ days so far (all of 02/03 season and now i'm 35+ days into 03/04) and no strap problems at all. i've been really happy actually. i love the combined toe strap system, it works great. i'm currently looking for two more pairs of sp4's or spx's to replace my burton bindings on my other boards, so that should tell you how much i like them. i would guess its a fluke. you never said *where* on the straps, and which strap it was that broke. that might give me some insight. what boots are you rockin? paul paul m wrote in message ... i, like arvin, ride the salomon sp4 shaped. they're the 03 V2 model specifically (in blue if you care).. and aside from a highback issue that really isn't causing me any problems, i stand by them. and to be honest, i beat the hell out of my bindings. i've ridden these at least 110+ days so far (all of 02/03 season and now i'm 35+ days into 03/04) and no strap problems at all. i've been really happy actually. i love the combined toe strap system, it works great. i'm currently looking for two more pairs of sp4's or spx's to replace my burton bindings on my other boards, so that should tell you how much i like them. i would guess its a fluke. you never said *where* on the straps, and which strap it was that broke. that might give me some insight. what boots are you rockin? paul Paul wrote: I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is reputable and if I bring them back I could get a full refund and move on to something else, like maybe a Flow. The Flows I looked at seemed plastic-y, though. I chose the Salomon primarily because it seemed so non-pastic-y, and I prefer to upgrade and/or replace on an infrequent basis. Here's what I'm wondering: Is this a fluke? Bad production run on the day the binding was assembled or some weird perfect combination of temperature and twist which means nothing about the over-all quality of this binding? Is this common to this model, and if so, is this a bad thing? Sure seem like that would be bad, unless... Do straps frequently break on all strap bindings? If I stick with straps, should I always have a pocketful of them when I go out? The good news about this strap is that it is very small, atttaching to other structures on each end. Certainly it must be very inexpensive. If straps break frequently this set up looks a lot better than many other designs. Thanks. This board really has helped me learn to think about a lot of stuff. |
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Strap binding durability?
all i know is don't get Burton bindings!!!! I'm am terribly unhappy with
my Burton freestyles.. a lot of people at the hill go "MAn, burtons rule", but i believe it's just a name thing now.. Paul wrote: I'm a green rider. If a couple you could help me on this that would be great. Just set myself up with what I thought was a forward-looking midrange board and stuff. First time out a strap on on of my Salomon SP4 bindings broke. I don't mind if my stuff gets beat up but I don't beat my stuff. It wasn't a hard day for the binding. My dealer is reputable and if I bring them back I could get a full refund and move on to something else, like maybe a Flow. The Flows I looked at seemed plastic-y, though. I chose the Salomon primarily because it seemed so non-pastic-y, and I prefer to upgrade and/or replace on an infrequent basis. Here's what I'm wondering: Is this a fluke? Bad production run on the day the binding was assembled or some weird perfect combination of temperature and twist which means nothing about the over-all quality of this binding? Is this common to this model, and if so, is this a bad thing? Sure seem like that would be bad, unless... Do straps frequently break on all strap bindings? If I stick with straps, should I always have a pocketful of them when I go out? The good news about this strap is that it is very small, atttaching to other structures on each end. Certainly it must be very inexpensive. If straps break frequently this set up looks a lot better than many other designs. Thanks. This board really has helped me learn to think about a lot of stuff. |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:59:34 -0800, Paul wrote:
It's on the rear binding, non-ratcheting side. TomTom rightfully pointed out that plastic is not necessarily a bad thing, and reminds me that a little bit of knowledge and some unfounded prejudices is not the best position from which to make decision. I took a look at my boot, Salomon Maori, and I have an issue there, too, with an eyelet that is certain to blow prematurely. The boot is very comfy and it makes love to the Salomon binding, at least superficially which is all I have to go on since I can't compare the feel of this set up to anything else other than rental step-ins. I'm super disappointed right now. I won't go into much more detail and instead trust my research and assume I drew the rare short straw, twice, but I'll need a day or two before rational thought carries the day and I go back to the dealer. If there's anything more to be learned from this, keep the posts coming, please. If not, it's not that big of a puzzle (unlike heel side turns for me right now, which is what I want to be thinking about) and thanks for sharing. I put up some pics on my little site: http://home.earthlink.net/~pwef/deleteAfter20040226.htm Hi Paul - Looking at the pictures on your site, and considering that there is damage on both the boot and binding on the same foot, perhaps there was something that damaged them together. I put my bindings on pretty tight (Salomon SP3's, 2002/03) with my Malamute boots and I havn't had this kind of damage. When you are storing your board, do you leave the boots in the bindings? Perhaps they were damaged when you were not riding. I'd get a new strap and the boot fixed. You setup should last you a long time, whatever it was, I don't think it was equipment failure. Cheers! - Chris cmurray at apeman dot org |
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