mounting pilot bindings

Hello,

If you look at your skate skis with bindings mounted on them, can you
discern a difference in the fore-aft position of the bindings between the
two skis. What would you consider the maximum difference in fore-aft
position between the two skis that is acceptable to you? 5mm? 25mm, 1cm?

Now, for the same question side to side. Can you tell if your bindings are
not perfectly centered side-to-side on the ski? Does one side of your pilot
binding line up flush with the edge of the ski, but the other side of the
binding overhangs the edge of ski?

thanks, tom

so, what skis did you get (model? flex?)


nnn wrote:
Hello,

If you look at your skate skis with bindings mounted on them, can you
discern a difference in the fore-aft position of the bindings between the
two skis. What would you consider the maximum difference in fore-aft
position between the two skis that is acceptable to you? 5mm? 25mm, 1cm?

Now, for the same question side to side. Can you tell if your bindings are
not perfectly centered side-to-side on the ski? Does one side of your pilot
binding line up flush with the edge of the ski, but the other side of the
binding overhangs the edge of ski?

thanks, tom

nnn wrote:
Hello,

If you look at your skate skis with bindings mounted on them, can you
discern a difference in the fore-aft position of the bindings between the
two skis. What would you consider the maximum difference in fore-aft
position between the two skis that is acceptable to you? 5mm? 25mm, 1cm?
Hopefully, you bought them this way, and aren't asking because you
mounted them yourself:-)

Unless you can discern the difference when you ski, not a big deal. A
good shoprat will balance the skis and place the bindings accordingly.
As such, if one ski has slightly more/less material on one end it may
affect the balance point.

Now, for the same question side to side. Can you tell if your bindings are
not perfectly centered side-to-side on the ski? Does one side of your pilot
binding line up flush with the edge of the ski, but the other side of the
binding overhangs the edge of ski?

If they were mounted using a jig, they should be pretty square. Unless
they are badly out of line, it won't hurt if they are slightly out.
They should be pretty close though. Your body will adjust
*automatically* to minor misalignments, but if one ski continually
shoots right or left, regardless of which foot it is on, there's a
problem and should be taken to a good ski mechanic.
thanks, tom

Marsh

Yes, it does sound like you mounted the bindings yourself.

bindings are mounted relatively to the ski's center of balance, which
happen to coincide on two skis if the skis are from the same pair. I've
never seen more than ~5 mm difference. On pair of my racing skis has
about that much of the difference in binding position. And, yes, I
mounted them myself, and I'll never do that again (not that I notice
the difference while skiing, but it's just that mounting bindings is
not worth my time)

Speaking of left-right... I've seen, like, 2 mm deviations from the
center. Again, no noticeable effect.

Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance. I've seen
up to 1cm difference in balance points between a pair of race skis (I
sold them), and my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

Gene

wrote:

Yes, it does sound like you mounted the bindings yourself.

bindings are mounted relatively to the ski's center of balance, which
happen to coincide on two skis if the skis are from the same pair. I've
never seen more than ~5 mm difference. On pair of my racing skis has
about that much of the difference in binding position. And, yes, I
mounted them myself, and I'll never do that again (not that I notice
the difference while skiing, but it's just that mounting bindings is
not worth my time)

Speaking of left-right... I've seen, like, 2 mm deviations from the
center. Again, no noticeable effect.

Hello

Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance.

Why should pilot bindings be mounted 1 cm behind the balance point?

my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

The skis are 1/4" different in length or the bindings are offset 1/4"?

thanks, tom

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance. I've seen
up to 1cm difference in balance points between a pair of race skis (I
sold them), and my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

Gene

wrote:

Yes, it does sound like you mounted the bindings yourself.

bindings are mounted relatively to the ski's center of balance, which
happen to coincide on two skis if the skis are from the same pair. I've
never seen more than ~5 mm difference. On pair of my racing skis has
about that much of the difference in binding position. And, yes, I
mounted them myself, and I'll never do that again (not that I notice
the difference while skiing, but it's just that mounting bindings is
not worth my time)

Speaking of left-right... I've seen, like, 2 mm deviations from the
center. Again, no noticeable effect.

1 cm back has to do with the nature of the Pilot bindings, but I don't
know the exact reason. Maybe someone else knows. The skis are 1/4"
different; the bindings are mounted relative to the balance point of the
ski they are on.

Gene

nnn wrote:

Hello

Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance.

Why should pilot bindings be mounted 1 cm behind the balance point?

my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

The skis are 1/4" different in length or the bindings are offset 1/4"?

thanks, tom

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance. I've seen
up to 1cm difference in balance points between a pair of race skis (I
sold them), and my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

Gene

wrote:

Yes, it does sound like you mounted the bindings yourself.

bindings are mounted relatively to the ski's center of balance, which
happen to coincide on two skis if the skis are from the same pair. I've
never seen more than ~5 mm difference. On pair of my racing skis has
about that much of the difference in binding position. And, yes, I
mounted them myself, and I'll never do that again (not that I notice
the difference while skiing, but it's just that mounting bindings is
not worth my time)

Speaking of left-right... I've seen, like, 2 mm deviations from the
center. Again, no noticeable effect.

Hello,

1 cm back has to do with the nature of the Pilot bindings, but I don't
know the exact reason.

Well, I've read that pilot bindings should be:

a) mounted 1cm *forward* of the balance point to move the ski's balance
point between the two bars on the boot.

b) not mounted forward of the balance point, but at the balance point
because the weight of the binding moves the balance point of the combined
ski+binding backwards to a spot between the two bars.

c) and now you say pilot bindings should be mounted 1cm behind the balance
point for an unknown reason.

I'm surprised there is no consensus.

thanks, tom



"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
1 cm back has to do with the nature of the Pilot bindings, but I don't
know the exact reason. Maybe someone else knows. The skis are 1/4"
different; the bindings are mounted relative to the balance point of the
ski they are on.

Gene

nnn wrote:

Hello

Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance.

Why should pilot bindings be mounted 1 cm behind the balance point?

my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

The skis are 1/4" different in length or the bindings are offset 1/4"?

thanks, tom

"Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message
...
Pilot bindings are usually mounted about 1cm back of balance. I've
seen
up to 1cm difference in balance points between a pair of race skis (I
sold them), and my distributor-picked Peltonens are 1/4" different in
length.

Gene

wrote:

Yes, it does sound like you mounted the bindings yourself.

bindings are mounted relatively to the ski's center of balance,
which
happen to coincide on two skis if the skis are from the same pair.
I've
never seen more than ~5 mm difference. On pair of my racing skis has
about that much of the difference in binding position. And, yes, I
mounted them myself, and I'll never do that again (not that I notice
the difference while skiing, but it's just that mounting bindings is
not worth my time)

Speaking of left-right... I've seen, like, 2 mm deviations from the
center. Again, no noticeable effect.