I realise I'm the new guy in these parts...

The Real Bev wrote:
Sorry to say it's broken. No idea why or how to fix it and I was a
moderator a while back and couldn't even get MY messages posted.
Somebody else is doing it now, so I guess I'm not the only one who can't
fix it. Last message was May 2014, only the second message this year.


It has been very broken for a while.
With all this noise on this one any accidentally posted skiing related
content will get trashed.
Going to get seasonal rentals for my son this weekend.
And the global warming people have caused a massive traffic jam in NYC,
and that will contribute to the problem.

comadrejo wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, September 22, 2014

Seriously, who uses usenet anymore?

This is a bigger and more serious problem than the rantings of a
seriously mentally ill looney with mommy issues. Usenet has been
dying for years, besides ISPs have stop support it, with Verizon as
one of many ISPs that don't offer it anymore.


Social Media sites are much easier to post photos, videos and
messages than Usenet. If everyone still had 15k dial up modems,
Usenet would be king. The miracle and bane of technology, change has
much more rapidly, and leaving those systems obsolete in the dust.

Usenet works. Web sites are a pain in the ass. Every site requires that you
register to post, and every site has it's own web page that you have to go to
individually, log in to separately, and few have any way to easily tell what
messages are new to you.

I can glance at my newsreader and instantly tell which subjects have new
messages I might be interested in. I can very quickly access and perhaps respond
to those messages. Many websites have very low usage, so who would ever remember
to check them for new posts. Usenet make that easy.

Photos and videos are their own problem. 2 years later, they are likely gone
anyway on many sites, leaving the answers they are attached to meaningless.

I occasionally use website forums to find info. I rarely will take the time to
register with a site to post a response. Never any such problems with usenet.
How many websites do you want to sign up for. And nothing compares with the
instant response capabilities of usenet.

Unfortunately, the moderated version of this group is uselessly disfunctional.

On 09/22/2014 12:24 PM, wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, September 22, 2014

Seriously, who uses usenet anymore?

This is a bigger and more serious problem than the rantings of a seriously
mentally ill looney with mommy issues. Usenet has been dying for years,
besides ISPs have stop support it, with Verizon as one of many ISPs that
don't offer it anymore.

Fortunately there's still eternal september.

I once called Charter (which still offers usenet) about their usenet
server being down. The 3rd-level droid I talked to thought it was a
satellite service and they didn't support that. I asked if he could
just yell out "anybody know anything about usenet?", and the guy just
said nobody there -- thousands, apparently -- had ever heard of it. I
gave up. Further investigation yielded the fact that a company called
Highwinds something supplied their usenet service, but you'd think
that SOMEBODY at their 'help' site would have that info, wouldn't you?
It runs faster than eternal september, but I just don't trust it.

Social Media sites are much easier to post photos, videos and messages than
Usenet. If everyone still had 15k dial up modems, Usenet would be king.
The miracle and bane of technology, change has much more rapidly, and
leaving those systems obsolete in the dust.

A crying shame. Usenet was just SOOOO much better than facebook, and I
won't even comment on the stupidity of twitter. People used to actually
DISCUSS, even if this sometimes turned into spittle-spewing rants.
Facebook encourages announcements instead of real discussion, and you
don't even get to see all of those unless you have your friends' comment
notifications sent to your email. I haven't compared the
'notifications' at the site with the email, but I probably should.

Anyway, I really miss usenet. Posting links was good enough.

--
Cheers, Bev
==================================================
Segal's Law: A man with one watch knows the time.
A man with two is never sure.

On 09/22/2014 12:51 PM, Bob F wrote:
comadrejo wrote:
wrote:
On Monday, September 22, 2014

Seriously, who uses usenet anymore?

This is a bigger and more serious problem than the rantings of a
seriously mentally ill looney with mommy issues. Usenet has been
dying for years, besides ISPs have stop support it, with Verizon as
one of many ISPs that don't offer it anymore.


Social Media sites are much easier to post photos, videos and
messages than Usenet. If everyone still had 15k dial up modems,
Usenet would be king. The miracle and bane of technology, change has
much more rapidly, and leaving those systems obsolete in the dust.

Usenet works. Web sites are a pain in the ass. Every site requires that you
register to post, and every site has it's own web page that you have to go to
individually, log in to separately, and few have any way to easily tell what
messages are new to you.

And they demand passwords. I've got a multi-page text file of my
passwords for various sites, even though I tend to use the same ones for
sites where I really don't care about "security". Some of the assholes
even want capital letters and numbers as if the site was actually important.

I can glance at my newsreader and instantly tell which subjects have new
messages I might be interested in. I can very quickly access and perhaps respond
to those messages. Many websites have very low usage, so who would ever remember
to check them for new posts. Usenet make that easy.

Photos and videos are their own problem. 2 years later, they are likely gone
anyway on many sites, leaving the answers they are attached to meaningless.

I occasionally use website forums to find info. I rarely will take the time to
register with a site to post a response. Never any such problems with usenet.
How many websites do you want to sign up for. And nothing compares with the
instant response capabilities of usenet.

What he said. I bother to register if I need additional information or
want to offer some.

Unfortunately, the moderated version of this group is uselessly disfunctional.

It worked for a while, but then something changed and some stuff didn't
work and then NOTHING worked. I don't know if it's the robomod software
or the server that carried the group. I don't know why some people
could post and others couldn't, although I had created a long 'approved'
list.

A killfile solves the biggest problem, but it doesn't lure former
members back.

--
Cheers, Bev
==================================================
Segal's Law: A man with one watch knows the time.
A man with two is never sure.

On Monday, September 22, 2014 12:51:32 PM UTC-7, Bob F wrote:
comadrejo wrote:

wrote:

On Monday, September 22, 2014



Seriously, who uses usenet anymore?



This is a bigger and more serious problem than the rantings of a

seriously mentally ill looney with mommy issues. Usenet has been

dying for years, besides ISPs have stop support it, with Verizon as

one of many ISPs that don't offer it anymore.





Social Media sites are much easier to post photos, videos and

messages than Usenet. If everyone still had 15k dial up modems,

Usenet would be king. The miracle and bane of technology, change has

much more rapidly, and leaving those systems obsolete in the dust.



Usenet works. Web sites are a pain in the ass. Every site requires that you

register to post, and every site has it's own web page that you have to go to

individually, log in to separately, and few have any way to easily tell what

messages are new to you.



I can glance at my newsreader and instantly tell which subjects have new

messages I might be interested in. I can very quickly access and perhaps respond

to those messages. Many websites have very low usage, so who would ever remember

to check them for new posts. Usenet make that easy.



Photos and videos are their own problem. 2 years later, they are likely gone

anyway on many sites, leaving the answers they are attached to meaningless.



I occasionally use website forums to find info. I rarely will take the time to

register with a site to post a response. Never any such problems with usenet.

How many websites do you want to sign up for. And nothing compares with the

instant response capabilities of usenet.



Unfortunately, the moderated version of this group is uselessly disfunctional.

I regularly communicate on (more than) 5 web-based forum-style discussion groups. They all recognize me when I log in (from cookies, I suppose) except from my half-crippled HP Mini that only operates from Safe Mode now. All of them, once logged in, have an option that shows the latest posts and those I have not yet read, although they all do it differently and to varying degrees of complication.

And since my access to RSA has been through google groups for the last few years, even RSA fits in that mold.

As for moderation, the soccer referees forum (I am not a referee, but I am interested in their discussions) has seriously-regimented moderation as a matter of course, such as this posted today by a moderator -

"I'm not going up and bothering to edit anything, but from here on out everything in this thread is about the refereeing performance in the Manchester United v Leicester City game from this weekend or it gets deleted without warning."

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:02:27 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote this crap:


Anyway, I really miss usenet. Posting links was good enough.

Aren't you on usenet now?


This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:39:35 -0400, downhill
wrote this crap:

And the global warming people have caused a massive traffic jam in NYC,
and that will contribute to the problem.

Newsflash. There's ALWAYS a traffic jam in NYC.


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power in the universe

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:47:17 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha
wrote this crap:

False accusations of molesting animals, false accusations
of molesting children. Ah, the disgusting lying piece of ****
freaks of rsa.

Nothing false about those accusations. We still remember how proud
you were when you got those velcro mittens to use on sheep.


This signature is now the ultimate
power in the universe

On 9/22/2014 7:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:02:27 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote this crap:


Anyway, I really miss usenet. Posting links was good enough.

Aren't you on usenet now?

Aren't we all?


Anyway here's the lay of the land:

http://xkcd.com/802_large/

It's a map of online communities circa 2010, scaled according to usage.
Usenet is still there! But I'm sure it's changed since then and usenet
is even smaller. See if you can find it - think of it as a "Where's
Walt" puzzle and invite your friends.

//Walt

On 2014-09-23 00:31:27 +0000, twobuddha said:

On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:11:03 PM UTC-7, Richard Henry wrote:
On Monday, September 22, 2014 12:51:32 PM UTC-7, Bob F wrote:

comadrejo wrote:



wrote:



On Monday, September 22, 2014







Seriously, who uses usenet anymore?







This is a bigger and more serious problem than the rantings of a



seriously mentally ill looney with mommy issues. Usenet has been



dying for years, besides ISPs have stop support it, with Verizon as



one of many ISPs that don't offer it anymore.











Social Media sites are much easier to post photos, videos and



messages than Usenet. If everyone still had 15k dial up modems,



Usenet would be king. The miracle and bane of technology, change has



much more rapidly, and leaving those systems obsolete in the dust.







Usenet works. Web sites are a pain in the ass. Every site requires that
you register to post, and every site has it's own web page that
you have to go to individually, log in to separately, and few
have any way to easily tell what messages are new to you.







I can glance at my newsreader and instantly tell which subjects have
new messages I might be interested in. I can very quickly
access and perhaps respond to those messages. Many websites
have very low usage, so who would ever remember to check them
for new posts. Usenet make that easy.







Photos and videos are their own problem. 2 years later, they are likely
gone anyway on many sites, leaving the answers they are
attached to meaningless.







I occasionally use website forums to find info. I rarely will take the
time to register with a site to post a response. Never any such
problems with usenet. How many websites do you want to sign up
for. And nothing compares with the instant response
capabilities of usenet.







Unfortunately, the moderated version of this group is uselessly disfunctional.



I regularly communicate on (more than) 5 web-based forum-style
discussion groups. They all recognize me when I log in (from cookies,
I suppose) except from my half-crippled HP Mini that only operates from
Safe Mode now. All of them, once logged in, have an option that shows
the latest posts and those I have not yet read, although they all do it
differently and to varying degrees of complication.


And since my access to RSA has been through google groups for the last
few years, even RSA fits in that mold.



As for moderation, the soccer referees forum (I am not a referee, but I
am interested in their discussions) has seriously-regimented moderation
as a matter of course, such as this posted today by a moderator -



"I'm not going up and bothering to edit anything, but from here on out
everything in this thread is about the refereeing performance in the
Manchester United v Leicester City game from this weekend or it gets
deleted without warning."

So in your ideal world, all posts that threaten my life, or call me a
child molester, or try to use my little doggie as ammo would be
immediately deleted? Shame it didn't work that way on rsa.terrorist,
as Thompson called me a child molester on several occasions and never
got censored.

You can point this out, can you?

I'll bet that any reference to you being blown off by SPD would be
banned, eh? CONTACT INFO! FORM EMAIL!!