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Inserts and screws.
Hi all, I just got a new pair of bindings and the screws that came
with them are a bit too short. They were hard to get into the board in the first place and when it finally did, each only screwed in about 3/4 of a turn until snug. Question is if this is enough and safe? I put on my boots and tried them out and it seemed solid enough but i'm not sure and don't want to hurt myself if they rip out later. I tried the screws on a free insert and without the bindings they go in about 2 full turns before bottoming out. Any ideas? These are screws for nidecker bindings and they're already a bit longer than usual so i'm not sure if I could get even longer ones. Any suggestions would be great. thanks. B |
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Hi all, I just got a new pair of bindings and the screws that came with
them are a bit too short. I know that for plate bindings, 4 turns is considered the minimum safe. I would guess that the same holds true for soft bindings - although softer boards may be too thin to allow for 4 turns of engagement. You might want to get in touch with the board manufacturer - I am sure they would be happy to make a recommendation. In any case... snowboards generally take M6x1.0 threaded screws. I think most bindings come with 16 mm screws; other lenfgths may be available at your hardware store. I find myself needing unusual lenghths like 14 mm and 18 mm - which I obtain from www.mcmaster.com. Mike T |
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Mike T wrote:
I know that for plate bindings, 4 turns is considered the minimum safe. I would guess that the same holds true for soft bindings - although softer boards may be too thin to allow for 4 turns of engagement. 3 turns is good for soft bindings. id |
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id no@idea wrote in message ...
Mike T wrote: I know that for plate bindings, 4 turns is considered the minimum safe. I would guess that the same holds true for soft bindings - although softer boards may be too thin to allow for 4 turns of engagement. 3 turns is good for soft bindings. id If the screws only go in 2 turns before bottoming out without anything in the way, something is definitely wrong. |
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bp wrote:
Hi all, I just got a new pair of bindings and the screws that came with them are a bit too short. They were hard to get into the board in the first place and when it finally did, each only screwed in about 3/4 of a turn until snug. I had the same problem with a different brand of binding. I went to the hardware store, which carries metric strainless steel screws, and bought longer screws. Dean |
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bp wrote:
Hi all, I just got a new pair of bindings and the screws that came with them are a bit too short. They were hard to get into the board in the first place and when it finally did, each only screwed in about 3/4 of a turn until snug. Question is if this is enough and safe? I put on my boots and tried them out and it seemed solid enough but i'm not sure and don't want to hurt myself if they rip out later. I tried the screws on a free insert and without the bindings they go in about 2 full turns before bottoming out. Any ideas? These are screws for nidecker bindings and they're already a bit longer than usual so i'm not sure if I could get even longer ones. Any suggestions would be great. thanks. Are you sure they're the right size of screw (diameter/thread pitch)? How many turns can you get your old screw into a free insert? Neil |
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Neil Gendzwill wrote:
bp wrote: Hi all, I just got a new pair of bindings and the screws that came with them are a bit too short. They were hard to get into the board in the first place and when it finally did, each only screwed in about 3/4 of a turn until snug. Question is if this is enough and safe? I put on my boots and tried them out and it seemed solid enough but i'm not sure and don't want to hurt myself if they rip out later. I tried the screws on a free insert and without the bindings they go in about 2 full turns before bottoming out. Any ideas? These are screws for nidecker bindings and they're already a bit longer than usual so i'm not sure if I could get even longer ones. Any suggestions would be great. thanks. Are you sure they're the right size of screw (diameter/thread pitch)? How many turns can you get your old screw into a free insert? Neil Well, it is the same diameter as the old screws with the same thread pattern, just a little longer. They came with the bindings. Both go in max 2 1/4 turns, tightened without any bindings. I tried the same screws on another old board I have and they go in 3 full turns, so I don't think the screws are the problem. I guess the board was just made this way? |
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Well, it is the same diameter as the old screws with the same thread
pattern, just a little longer. They came with the bindings. Both go in max 2 1/4 turns, tightened without any bindings. I tried the same screws on another old board I have and they go in 3 full turns, so I don't think the screws are the problem. I guess the board was just made this way? Are you testing that on the inserts closest to the center of the board, or closest to the tip/tail? On many boards, inserts are deeper toward the middle of the board... in any case if it's just one insert, I would guess it's a bad insert... |
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Mike T wrote:
Well, it is the same diameter as the old screws with the same thread pattern, just a little longer. They came with the bindings. Both go in max 2 1/4 turns, tightened without any bindings. I tried the same screws on another old board I have and they go in 3 full turns, so I don't think the screws are the problem. I guess the board was just made this way? Are you testing that on the inserts closest to the center of the board, or closest to the tip/tail? On many boards, inserts are deeper toward the middle of the board... in any case if it's just one insert, I would guess it's a bad insert... Mike, You're right, the 2 1/4 turns were the inserts farthest from the center. The ones at the center let the screw in almost 4 turns. Anyway, I took your advice and contacted the boardmaker and he let me know that 2 turns should be adequate with soft bindings so as long as i get some longer screws i should be safe. Thanks for the advice. |
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