Wax?

Can anyone recommend a good general to warm weather wax? ...or are
they all about the same?

-- John

John Davison wrote:

Can anyone recommend a good general to warm weather wax? ...or are
they all about the same?



Poorboy or One Ball Jay seem to work pretty well for those conditions
IMHO...try the regular kinds, or "fluorinated" if the snow is going to
be a little soft.

there's also rub-on wax for quick fixes if you feel your base is getting
slow.

bri

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Most waxes are pretty good. Swix, Toko, etc. I think the Purl waxes tend
to be a bit harder and last better than some of the others. Generally an
all temp is going to be pretty standard though.

--
Sean Martin
Donek Snowboards Inc.

http://www.donek.com/
phone:877-53-DONEK

"John Davison" wrote in message
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Can anyone recommend a good general to warm weather wax? ...or are
they all about the same?

-- John

In article ,
"Sean Martin" wrote:

Most waxes are pretty good. Swix, Toko, etc. I think the Purl waxes tend
to be a bit harder and last better than some of the others. Generally an
all temp is going to be pretty standard though.

Okay, general comment and question.

I know that waxing is a good thing in order to make the base (bottom of
the snowboard) as smooth and slick as possible.

Coming from the shooting disciplines, some people use molybdenum
disulfide to coat their bullets in order to reduce friction, increase
velocities and decrease pressures.

Wouldn't the moly waxes out there be the best there is, with no care for
the temperature? The only thing that might be bad about moly is that is
might possibly attract moisture, but since the base of a snowboard is
supposed to withstand moisture, why aren't all waxes, moly-based?

(What is molybdenum disulfide's effect on the water supply?)

R Tan wrote:

Okay, general comment and question.

I know that waxing is a good thing in order to make the base (bottom of
the snowboard) as smooth and slick as possible.

Coming from the shooting disciplines, some people use molybdenum
disulfide to coat their bullets in order to reduce friction, increase
velocities and decrease pressures.

Wouldn't the moly waxes out there be the best there is, with no care for
the temperature? The only thing that might be bad about moly is that is
might possibly attract moisture, but since the base of a snowboard is
supposed to withstand moisture, why aren't all waxes, moly-based?

(What is molybdenum disulfide's effect on the water supply?)



can't say it wouldn't work at ALL, but I know it probably wouldn't be a
great general wax, like for general conditions and whatnot.

the bases of boards are designed to resist moisture somewhat, but a nice
coat of wax always helps to protect just that extra little bit and be
safe. adding a substance to the bottom of your board that attracts
moisture might be asking for trouble - if not during riding then
definitely after. for example, it might promote rust of the edges quite
a bit more unless you're very very diligent about wiping your board down
after.

might make for an interesting cold conditions or racing wax though.

bri

R Tan wrote:

Okay, general comment and question.

I know that waxing is a good thing in order to make the base (bottom of
the snowboard) as smooth and slick as possible.

Coming from the shooting disciplines, some people use molybdenum
disulfide to coat their bullets in order to reduce friction, increase
velocities and decrease pressures.

Wouldn't the moly waxes out there be the best there is, with no care for
the temperature? The only thing that might be bad about moly is that is
might possibly attract moisture, but since the base of a snowboard is
supposed to withstand moisture, why aren't all waxes, moly-based?

(What is molybdenum disulfide's effect on the water supply?)

I'm no expert on Moly based greases, but the purpose of a wax is not to make
the base shiny and smooth or attract water. It does a number of things, one
of the most important is to be hydrophobic or repel water. When glidig on
snow at most temperatures you generate a certain amount of melt water. This
can generate a great deal of suction between the base and the snow if your
base is really smooth. Waxes with flourine in them tend to be more
hydrophobic repelling water even better. A base is typically structured in
order to provide grooves or channels in the base which break up the suction
generated in wet snow. Only in very cold situations does the snow not melt.
In those situations, a very hard wax is used to protect the base from the
abraisiveness of the snow. Your moly grease might be an effective speed
enhancer in these situations, but the slick you'd leave on the snow would
most likely be very harmful to the environment. It would still leave the
base unprotected from the abraisive snow.

I have to wonder if the molybdenum disulfide isn't used in part for it's
ability to function well at high temperatures. How does it work at sub
feezing temps?

--
Sean Martin
Donek Snowboards Inc.

http://www.donek.com/
phone:877-53-DONEK

I've done some testing with Molybdenum. It is more hydroscopic than wax or Ptex base material. In wet snow it will bond with the water and slow you down a bit. Its desirable characteristics are really its anti static properties. In dry snow it does work well to overcome static friction. The reason you may not see it on the market is because the anti static properties are very similar to those of graphite which is available.

Scott
Purl Wax