If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#11
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:13:09 AM UTC-7, VtSkier wrote:
No. Really... Don't listen to anything anybody says about skiing unless they are a ski instructor and is in front of you and both you and (s)he have skis on. Well, I was a ski instructor. I wasn't trying to give a lesson. Which I think is something that the original poster understands. But you certainly CAN tell people things that will help. Steering the ski (pointing the big toe it was called) is an overlooked priority for the beginner. Talk about edging, arc, radius are way over their heads. I think that the single most important beginner tip I could give, that I learned from instructor training, is to reduce the amount of slope that you tackle to something that going straight down for some distance does not frighten you. THEN practice. Go out and frighten yourself sometimes too. But just get down that! :-) |
Ads |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On 2/25/14 10:13 AM, VtSkier wrote:
All of the words in the world cannot tell you how to ski. You need to be shown. People learn differently; some can translate words to self-action easily, others need demonstration. I once was teaching a physicist friend who was unable to understand edging until I cut out a cardboard exaggerated ski shape and showed him the edge behavior under load. That plus a few vector diagrams on a lunch napkin had him carving in one afternoon. I'm fond of words - Lito Tejeda FLores' book _Breakthrough on Skis_ is gospel to me, gobbledegook to others. I agree that many people do well only from direct demonstration. Maybe even most. |
#13
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On 2/24/14 6:38 PM, ajnadel wrote:
when I attempt a parallel turn, my skis tend to end the turn facing directly downhill, which can turn into a mad tumble down the slope. people say that I should dig in the edges, but to pull off a successful turn, it seems like pure luck to come all the way around. any suggestions? You are pulling back from the acceleration occurring when the ski passes through the fall line. That stops the turn cold. Keep your weight forward. |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On 2/25/2014 3:44 PM, lal_truckee wrote:
On 2/24/14 6:38 PM, ajnadel wrote: when I attempt a parallel turn, my skis tend to end the turn facing directly downhill, which can turn into a mad tumble down the slope. people say that I should dig in the edges, but to pull off a successful turn, it seems like pure luck to come all the way around. any suggestions? You are pulling back from the acceleration occurring when the ski passes through the fall line. That stops the turn cold. Keep your weight forward. And then there's the little trick I pull when I've finished a turn and am almost stopped, push hard into the tongues of my boots and pirouette around 180 degrees to parallel park against the edge of the trail. How can I possibly teach that? and Pigo, I was an instructor too many, many years ago. Now I'm just an old fart who skis pretty good. |
#15
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
VtSkier wrote:
180 degrees to parallel park Hand brake turn..... Now I'm just an old fart who skis pretty good. I chased you you ski very well, most would have an impossible time to keep up with you if you pushed it. |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:30:43 PM UTC-6, downhill wrote:
I chased you you ski very well, most would have an impossible time to keep up with you if you pushed it. There's a fix for that -- ski ahead of him and then crash. Or better yet, ski behind him until he crashes, and then you DON'T crash. Actually, I showed a former user of this group a really fun thing to do, on the groomed boilerplate at Santa Fe one snowy afternoon. "Hey bubba, watch this!" Then I crashed, did a 360, and skiied out of it and truthfully said "I meant to do that." He tried it and agreed that it WAS a cool stunt. The flying ice shards churned up by your ski edges and blown into your face feels better than you can imagine. It's like a cross between an adrenaline rush and a shot of ice-cold single-malt. I also did the "Or better yet" stunt on him at Taos in Kachina Bowl the next day, but he didn't think that was quite as cool. The most surprising part was -- it was in a triggered-avalanche runout field, and I was UNABLE to crash in that junk. Those of you who have seen me ski know that I am fearless in any terrain and inept in almost all of it. Still, I was unable to crash when skiing in black-diamond avalanche trash, even though I have no problem falling down on the bunny slope. But -- I am one of the very, very few people on this group who have ever logged two or more ski days in south Texas. And that's better than skiing at one of the lost resorts. |
#17
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
|
#18
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On Tuesday, February 25, 2014 5:07:12 PM UTC-6, VtSkier wrote:
On 2/25/2014 5:52 PM, wrote: (snip) But -- I am one of the very, very few people on this group who have ever logged two or more ski days in south Texas. And that's better than skiing at one of the lost resorts. If I'm not mistaken that might not have been hard to do a couple of weeks ago. But then, I'd be interested in knowing where you pulled that off. I can see a couple of day of snow in South Texas but a hill? Snow on a sand dune? Curious minds need to know. Skiing out of my driveway and down the neighborhood streets, back in the 1990s. South Texas "snow" generally starts with half an inch of ice, and then follows with whatever Ullr decrees. But the major snow events recently reported in Texas were all in north Texas, not south Texas (AKA Austin and points south). All we got down here was a few days of 1/10" thick black ice.. Amarillo typically gets a foot of snow every year. Problem is, that foot of snow is two feet taller than the biggest hill within a hundred miles. It's a lot like how Oklahoma gets all those tornadoes, and half of them do almost $83 worth of damage each. I've found that I can prevent south Texas snow by waxing my skis. Since I've started, I've noticed that the mere act of THINKING about waxing my skis prevents most snow events, or at least what passes for now here. But it doesn't work to prevent non-skiiable black ice, tho. Jim in Texas |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On 25/02/2014 19:15, downhill wrote:
BrritSki wrote: On 25/02/2014 18:14, downhill wrote: ajnadel wrote: when I attempt a parallel turn, my skis tend to end the turn facing directly downhill, which can turn into a mad tumble down the slope. people say that I should dig in the edges, but to pull off a successful turn, it seems like pure luck to come all the way around. any suggestions? Try... putting your hand in your pocket and paying for a lesson or three. I do. I might take one for SL on thurday night then I have two days of downhill training before the DH and I might have my regular coach at Okemo spend and hour or so with me during the training time. Not you, the original poster... |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
beginner skiier technique question?? turning
On 2/24/2014 9:38 PM, ajnadel wrote:
when I attempt a parallel turn, my skis tend to end the turn facing directly downhill, which can turn into a mad tumble down the slope. people say that I should dig in the edges, but to pull off a successful turn, it seems like pure luck to come all the way around. any suggestions? I think LAL nailed it. You are sitting back after you have come half-way around and that is cancelling your turn. Keep forward and you should come all the way around. But see what I meant by skiing being counter- intuitive? To keep your heels (of your skis) sliding you need to keep your weight toward the tips. Again, I repeat... Find a good instructor and We are all (well mostly all) sorry that we hijacked your thread for the usual nonsense that goes on here. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
tough question for a beginner... | ego | Snowboarding | 16 | April 21st 06 05:39 PM |
Beginner Ski buying question | Zoolander | Nordic Skiing | 1 | January 17th 05 12:34 AM |
Beginner skier with question about falls and bruises | Ron N.Y | Alpine Skiing | 8 | March 19th 04 04:49 PM |
Beginner question, Please help... | Peter | Snowboarding | 10 | February 13th 04 08:52 PM |
beginner question... | Bob | North American Ski Resorts | 6 | February 5th 04 12:02 AM |