Get a Load of This - Schattie says he's been on PBS like AndrewMcLean

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:23:54 -0700 (PDT), twobuddha
wrote this crap:


More stalking from a wet brain freak who has made thousands of sick
jokes about molesting children.
I'm sure he'll believe you, Bob.
What a pathetic, dickless stalking asshole you are.


But he's better than you.

Homeless people carry signs saying, "At least I'm not Scott Abraham."




My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 18:55:53 -0700, Bert Hoff
wrote this crap:

What about my challenge?


So, how are yolur inflatable dolls getting along? They disappointed that
your inflatable sword won't?

Bert


I have no inflatable dolls, Berturde. I am a Hungarian warrior. My
honor and glory is sung throughout mead halls everywhere.

Will Scottee accept my challenge?


You keep on misspelling "whorer," Inflatable.

Bert

I shall note that you didn't answer my question.




My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."

"Bert Hoff" wrote in message

I believe that is what I just said. So you do understand. You've only
been pretending to be a simpleton.

That's so simple even you can grasp the concept.

So why are you having so much trouble with it?


Alan expressed his BELIEF, based on the FACT that none of you twits
were offing any evidence to the contrary, that the film didn't exist.
Whether the film exists or does not exist can not possibly change
whether what Alan said is the truth or not. The only thing which could
make what Alan said a Lie is if Alan said he did not believe it when in
fact at the time he said it he did actually believe it. I maintain Alan
is being overly generous to you by apologizing for holding an
(apparently) incorrect opinion.



No, he didn't state it as a BELIEF. He stated it as a cold, hard fact.


No he didn't. He stated it as a challenge to you, which you declined to
accept. His words, if I recall, were "Put up or shut up".
At the time all the available evidence pointed towards Alan being correct
in his opinion. At the time, given that you and your esteemed colleague
were steadfastly refusing to offer any shred of evidence, I agreed with
Alan's opinion. It took someone else here to find and provide the
information, you stonewalled.



You can start by getting your facts straight. "Put up or shut up" was in a
different post.

So your position is we should ignore context? Pretty thin ice there Bert.

On Mar 27, 7:56*pm, "Norm" wrote:
"Bert Hoff" wrote in message news:3d-
I'm sure you'll stalk him and let him know.
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How do you "stalk" someone that has a contact button on their
website?

I hope he enjoys the article and RSA !

Aside from being a liar, manipulative and just plain stoopid.

Notice how all of a sudden he's clamming up about his claim that you posed
as a Level III certified mountain guide.

You don't suppose that might be because it was asked, answered and explained
in full close to 2 weeks ago?

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"Explained" to everyone that needed it. A grand total of ONE, that
still doesn't get it!!!! OMG that's funny!

On Mar 27, 10:52*pm, "Norm" wrote:
"Bert Hoff" wrote in message

Notice how all of a sudden he's clamming up about his claim that you
posed as a Level III certified mountain guide.

You don't suppose that might be because it was asked, answered and
explained in full close to 2 weeks ago?

Do try to keep up Bert.

You added your bit; when Pigo said that Jeff had claimed to have some sort
of counseling license you said that's exactly what happened ...

I said nothing of the sort. Jeff never claimed to have a counselling
license, Scott did. Or does, I assume.

even though you admitted later you knew Scott and Jeff were not the same
person.

You were lying.

I didn't admit anything remotely like that either, I said (in the same post)
i didn't BELIEVE they were the same person. I did admit to some uncertainty
about that believe.
How can youclaim I lie when I clearly state I am expressing a personal
belief? You don't believe i believe what I say I believe?
You're really grasping at straws here Bert, you should bail before you make
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It's amazing isn't it? His "reasoning" has reached a new low. I'm just
proud to be a part of it.

Nice try but I think you can just give up now. Anyone that was unclear
about the subject would surely have grasped it by now. Those that
don't never will. And those that refuse to won't either.

On Mar 28, 1:00*am, Bert Hoff wrote:
Dave Cartman wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

pigo wrote:
On Mar 27, 1:23 am, Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:
Dave Stallard wrote:
twobuddha wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:04 pm, Clarencedarrow

wrote:
Schattie wrote
He told me to get lost? *Not to my face. *Ain't seen the
lying
freak
since he committed felonies over this stupid newsgroup..
Clue time, Vinnie. *I've been on PBS, too. *Didn't make my
dick
bigger. *And unlike Andrew McLean, I'm not a pathological
liar
who
screwed over a friend, defamed him, participated in a
criminal
conspiracy of terrorism, lied to a cop and a judge.
He can ski whatever he likes and self promote all he wants:
I
know
what kind of man Andrew McLean is: an amoral asshole.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now go take your meds, Vinnie.
Hey, bubba. Your appetite for self humiliation knows no
bounds,
does
it?
Even if you are a tragic pathetic character, this is REALLY
funny.
Clue time, Vinnie.
Been interviewed for a couple documentaries. *I was down at
the
local
PBS affiliate a couple months ago for the premier.
Vinnie, I know what happened. *Bert has seen the film. *Jeff
has
a
copy. *
OK, what's the name of the film? *Who produced and directed
it? *
Where
and when has it aired? *We'd all like to see it.
* *Dave
Yeah, sure. What you'd like to do is just to take potshots at
it.
I won't contribute to your mocking of this serious and
imporetant
documentary.
Bert
LOL
You think the documentary's feelings will be hurt?
Awwww...
No, I think you're totally insensitive to the survivors of
childhood
sexual abuse, who had the courage to tell their stories.
Bert
And how would they be impacted by us knowing what this alleged
documentary is supposed to be called?

Have you figured that one out?

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that
wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if
you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."- Hide quoted text -

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I highly doubt that trunky is in it.

I wonder how the producer would feel (if he is in it) to learn the
real story (ie the backlash story)?
Trunky? You mean the guy who posted that he was a Level III
certified
mountain guide?

Oh, you of the "I'm so stooid ..." defense.

"I'm so stoopid I think that Scott is Jeff Davis.
If so, then Scotty is that "stoopid" as well.

No. Scott does not think he's Jeff Davis.

He just thinks that Robert Thompson is stoopid enough to think so..

You got caught in another lie. Scott does not think he is Jeff Davis.
No, Bert, he doesn't.

He did however think that the message addressed to him was addressed to
him.

You lie a lot.

Bert
Your lies are really getting confusing ...
He did however think that the message addressed to him was addressed to
* him.

Bert
I'm sorry, but why don't you try responding coherently and then I'll
reply.

You should learn to *write* coherently. All I did was say your writing
was confusing.
What does:
* He did however think that the message addressed to him was
addressed to
* him.
mean?

Bert
I'm sorry, but why don't you try responding coherently and then I'll
reply.

You're a sorry case, all right.

What is so hard to grasp?

What did you *mean* when you said:

* He did however think that the message addressed to him was addressed
* to him.

That's a simple, straightforward question.

The point -------YOU--------* are missing is that pigo believes that
Scott and Jeff are the same person. *I don't know if anyone else thinks
that or not.

I hope that helps clear things up for you.

You should learn to follow along,if you're going to pretend to make
cogent comments on the discussion.

You didn't see my posts about Robert Thompson's "I'm so stoopid" defense?

He's so stoopid, with his brain fried by all that cocaine, that he
thinks Scott and Jeff are the same person ... and cannot comprehend that
anyone else thinks differently.

He's a limited thinker, like you ...

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There sure are many similarities in their postings. The obsession with
homosexuality, repetitiveness, lack of originality, insane desire for
approval, and especially what trunky can't be on his own (since we've
seen him ski) he has invented in his "jeff" persona. I'm not sure
whether or not they are *actually* the same person, but for all
intents and purposes they are to me for the purposes of this forum.

I can easily comprehend that others may not think so. And furthermore
would like to pull a barf here on that score. YOU JUST LIED WHEN YOU
SAID THAT I CANNOT.

hehehehe

On Mar 28, 1:04*am, Bert Hoff wrote:
Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
*twobuddha wrote:

On Mar 27, 11:39 am, Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

pigo wrote:
On Mar 27, 1:23 am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article ,
*Bert Hoff wrote:
Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:
Dave Stallard wrote:
twobuddha wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:04 pm, Clarencedarrow

wrote:
Schattie wrote
He told me to get lost? *Not to my face. *Ain't seen the
lying
freak
since he committed felonies over this stupid newsgroup..
Clue time, Vinnie. *I've been on PBS, too. *Didn't make my
dick
bigger. *And unlike Andrew McLean, I'm not a pathological
liar
who
screwed over a friend, defamed him, participated in a
criminal
conspiracy of terrorism, lied to a cop and a judge.
He can ski whatever he likes and self promote all he wants:
I
know
what kind of man Andrew McLean is: an amoral asshole.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now go take your meds, Vinnie.
Hey, bubba. Your appetite for self humiliation knows no
bounds,
does
it?
Even if you are a tragic pathetic character, this is REALLY
funny.
Clue time, Vinnie.
Been interviewed for a couple documentaries. *I was down at
the
local
PBS affiliate a couple months ago for the premier.
Vinnie, I know what happened. *Bert has seen the film. *Jeff
has
a
copy.
OK, what's the name of the film? *Who produced and directed
it? *
Where
and when has it aired? *We'd all like to see it.
* *Dave
Yeah, sure. What you'd like to do is just to take potshots at
it.
I won't contribute to your mocking of this serious and
imporetant
documentary.
Bert
LOL
You think the documentary's feelings will be hurt?
Awwww...
No, I think you're totally insensitive to the survivors of
childhood
sexual abuse, who had the courage to tell their stories.
Bert
And how would they be impacted by us knowing what this alleged
documentary is supposed to be called?
Have you figured that one out?
--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that
wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect
if
you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."- Hide quoted text -
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I highly doubt that trunky is in it.
I wonder how the producer would feel (if he is in it) to learn the
real story (ie the backlash story)?
Trunky? You mean the guy who posted that he was a Level III
certified
mountain guide?
Oh, you of the "I'm so stooid ..." defense.
"I'm so stoopid I think that Scott is Jeff Davis.
If so, then Scotty is that "stoopid" as well.
You just got caught lying. *Admit it, apologize it, stoopid.
I didn't get caught lying. I admitted I was wrong about the existence
of
the film.

Admitting you lied doesn't mean you didn't lie in the first place,
dimwit.

Bert
True, but since I didn't lie in the first place....

Yup, you did lie in the first place. With no knowledge one way or the
other, you stated as a fact that there was no such movie. That was a lie
on your part.

Bert
Nope. Since I knew that I had no knowledge I used rhetorical language to
forcefully express an assertion.

Nice try, but no cigar.

I see, so when you state that no one with a brain would believe that Bob
Thompson's messages was about Scott and Scott clearly believed it,
somehow your rhetoric can be less than literally true, but mine must be
literally true at all times?

LOL

Wow, you're really struggling and floundering!

You extrapolated a position from my words, adding in an interpretation.
Scott knows that Robert Thompson simply does not have a brain.

That's not the same thing at all, as your declaration of fact, that the
movie does not exist.

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What about you statement about my lack of comprehension? Can you show
us the post where I said that I could not comprehend someone feeling
differently than I do, liar?

On Mar 27, 9:20*am, comadrejo wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:



Alan Baker wrote:
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*Bert Hoff wrote:

Dave Stallard wrote:
twobuddha wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:04 pm, Clarencedarrow
wrote:
Schattie wrote

He told me to get lost? *Not to my face. *Ain't seen the lying freak
since he committed felonies over this stupid newsgroup.
Clue time, Vinnie. *I've been on PBS, too. *Didn't make my dick
bigger. *And unlike Andrew McLean, I'm not a pathological liar who
screwed over a friend, defamed him, participated in a criminal
conspiracy of terrorism, lied to a cop and a judge.
He can ski whatever he likes and self promote all he wants: I know
what kind of man Andrew McLean is: an amoral asshole.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now go take your meds, Vinnie.
Hey, bubba. Your appetite for self humiliation knows no bounds, does
it?

Even if you are a tragic pathetic character, this is REALLY funny.
Clue time, Vinnie.
Been interviewed for a couple documentaries. *I was down at the local
PBS affiliate a couple months ago for the premier.
Vinnie, I know what happened. *Bert has seen the film. *Jeff has a
copy. *
OK, what's the name of the film? *Who produced and directed it? *Where
and when has it aired? *We'd all like to see it.

* *Dave
Yeah, sure. What you'd like to do is just to take potshots at it.

I won't contribute to your mocking of this serious and imporetant
documentary.

Bert

LOL

You think the documentary's feelings will be hurt?

Awwww...

No, I think you're totally insensitive to the survivors of childhood
sexual abuse, who had the courage to tell their stories.

Bert

* No Bert, no one is insensitive to people who have been sexually abused
as a child. People are insensitive to a person with some serious
behavioral problems, who tries to use his victimhood as an excuse to be
foul mouth obnoxious bully. You confuse trolling and baiting to moral
condoning of this issue. *

* *Scott is an adult, he needs to act like one. *If he can't act like an
adult, whether on this public newsgroup or in public, then he needs to
get some serious help. *

*One person you are going back and forth with right now is Vinnie. I
remember some 9 years ago that both you and Scooter were singing his
high praises, because he was the only one who was supporting your
"crusade" during the troubles. *He only broke with both of you after the
court order, and Scooter's insistence of continuing with his violent
fantasies as "bobaloobob".

Actually that's not quite true.

1.) Meeting the man was a sobering experience-completely devoid of any
social skills, a hair trigger temper and a general aura that really
creeped out a lot of people especially my wife. She didn't want him to
get anywhere close to the kids.

2.)He started saying those really creepy things about Lieberman and
his illness. That was just so totally disgusting.

3.) During the height of the nastiness, I was e-mailed bombed at work
when I was an earlier "Jeff Davis" smarter and more educated perhaps
but still a "Jeff Davis". When I told Abraham that - and now that
attack tied down a State of Maryland server and put my job in jeopardy
- his response was "Oh well, who cares I'm more important than your
job family etc. The ******* was using me for his own little vendetta.

4.) When the hearing came about and I learned about what actually
happened ( I had a long talk w David Hobbs). That clinched it and then
the "bobaloobob" crap happened.

Davis,

I know deep down, you're too ****ing stupid to understand but I'll say
it anyway, Your being used by a truly brutal and evil person. If you
had any brains at all, you'd run away forget all about this place. You
might also try to get an education and a job, it's never too late.

Richard Henry wrote:

On Mar 27, 9:52 pm, "Norm" wrote:
"Bert Hoff" wroteL

You were lying.

I didn't admit anything remotely like that either, I said (in the
same post) i didn't BELIEVE they were the same person. I did admit
to some uncertainty about that believe. How can youclaim I lie when
I clearly state I am expressing a personal belief? You don't
believe i believe what I say I believe? You're really grasping at
straws here Bert, you should bail before you make yourself look
even more ridiculous than Scott.

Babble rarely reads well.

I think Bert assumes that all his targeted readers are at the
intellectual level of Scott and Jeff, and writes to that level.

Is it even possible to write to a level above one's own? He's not that
much higher than S&J, but they're pretty low on the totem pole.

--
Cheers, Bev

Please hassle me, I thrive on stress.

On Mar 27, 6:50 pm, Bert Hoff wrote:
twobuddha wrote:
On Mar 27, 11:40 am, Alan Baker wrote:
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Bert Hoff wrote:

Ted Waldron wrote:
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Alan Baker wrote:
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Bert Hoff wrote:
Alan Baker wrote:
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Bert Hoff wrote:
Alan Baker wrote:
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Bert Hoff wrote:
Richard Henry wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:09 am, Bert Hoff wrote:
Clarencedarrow wrote:
On Mar 23, 9:38 pm, twobuddha wrote:
On Mar 23, 6:04 pm, Clarencedarrow
wrote:
Schattie wrote
He told me to get lost? Not to my face. Ain't seen the lying
freak
since he committed felonies over this stupid newsgroup.
Clue time, Vinnie. I've been on PBS, too. Didn't make my dick
bigger. And unlike Andrew McLean, I'm not a pathological liar
who
screwed over a friend, defamed him, participated in a criminal
conspiracy of terrorism, lied to a cop and a judge.
He can ski whatever he likes and self promote all he wants: I
know
what kind of man Andrew McLean is: an amoral asshole.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now go take your meds, Vinnie.
Hey, bubba. Your appetite for self humiliation knows no bounds,
does
it?
Even if you are a tragic pathetic character, this is REALLY
funny.
Clue time, Vinnie.
Been interviewed for a couple documentaries.
Clue time FF. Interviewing the homeless on the street.
I was down at the local
PBS affiliate a couple months ago for the premier.
For "a" premier - What was the show? "Whooops, I'm sorrrryyyy. The
tapes were destroyed". Yeah right, Down at the local station, pan-
handling. Date, time, program.
Vinnie, I know what happened.
We do too, You were told to get your fat ass out. Anything else is
totally fabricated.
Bert has seen the film.
Now ain't that convenient. He could put on You Tube for his Omega
Male
Site - but he won't because it doesn't exist.
Jeff has a copy.
Why, he's too stupid to operate a tv, vcr or dvd? But again that's
reeeeaaaalllllll convenient.
You don't have a clue what you are talking about: you're just
making up another whopper and ****ting yourself.
Projecting again I see. Provide the proof and I'll shut up. Have
that
genius Jeffy upload to You Tube? We're waiting......
Like Andrew Mclean, YOU committed felonies over this newsgroup.
Unlike that poseur and fraud, you are not sane enough to leave
this
********, stop lying, etc.
Actually dumbass, the only felony committed for the 12,000th time
was
you violating a court order posting as bobaloobob, which you
admitted
to and we CAN prove that. Talk about sanity, why are you still
posting
here? Mr. War Hero - taking 2 bullets, Mr. Masters, Mr. TV star,
Det.
Friday.
Take your meds, Vinnie. You truly are a tragic, pathetic,
mentally
ill stalker. Get help.
Vinnie, Sminnie, I've got a job, you don't. I've got a house, you
don't. I've got a family, you don't. I don't have a police record.
Lean into that FF. Think about about. You can squeal all you want,
but
it's never change things. The only thing that you might even be fit
for is dog food. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You probably
can't
even afford a plot.
I won't because it's a good film, and all you want to do is to find
stuff to flame and rage about. It's a well-done piece on an
important
topic ... not something for you to try to play with for your own
amusement ...
If it's a "well-done piece on an important topic", what could we
flame
about?
Oh, you'd find a way to just stir the pot and try to make trouble, as
usual ...
Bert
Put up or shut up, Bert.
You don't have the goods, because they don't exist.
It exists, all right.
If you want to take your pot-shots at it, you'll have to find it
yourself.
I won't help an idiot like you.
Bert
No, it doesn't exist.
You're lying.
You are not saying you don't know whether it exists or not.
You are stating as a fact, from your own knowledge, that you know it
does not exist.
That is a lie. You know no such thing.
So here you are, again, caught in another lie.
Bert
Not a lie, Bert, an assertion. I assert it based on what I know of you
and Scottie.
My guess is this is what Bert and Schattie are talking about...
http://tinyurl.com/24crf3
You mean this film that liar Alan Baker states doesn't exist?
Bert
I asserted it didn't exist, yes. I'm not afraid to admit I was wrong.

But I wonder if the films producer will be thrilled to learn the
background of one of his "survivors"...

What background? The one you freaks have invented, your slanders and
lies?
Here's a clue, freak. I don't see an apology. You got caught lying.
Apologize, asshole.

He's claiming that he only "asserted" that the movie didn't exist.

But he stated, categorically, as a fact, that the movie did not exist.

Yup, he was lying ... again.

Notice how quickly the people back away from their own lies?

Catch him all the time. He used to say Jeff and I had never met, too.
In the insane world of Alan Baker, if he believes a delusion is true,
it is a fact. Nuts.