Total Body Automation

On Jul 4, 6:38*am, taichiskiing
wrote:

"Wind drag" slows down the gravity acceleration? Fancy.

Wow. There goes any credibility you purported to have with your
Newtonian physics talk.
Obviously wind drag doesn't affect gravity's pull...But are you really
suggesting that there is no NET loss in speed down the slope when wind
drag is increased ?

Sorry, IS but you've really dug yourself into a pretty deep hole with
this thread.

On Jul 4, 8:42*am, Alan Baker wrote:
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*taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 7:49 pm, lal_truckee wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
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I could do it before the age of 10.

Late bloomer.

10 year old kids may do it for its fearless and stupidity. The real
question is can you do it now? Yes, let's see it.

You almost make me think you're serious. But really, now, that's a
pretty wimpy slope AND the skier is standing upright with arms
outstretched, so wind drag makes it impossibly to pick up much speed.

"Wind drag" slows down the gravity acceleration? Fancy.

Wind drag doesn't "slow down" "gravity acceleration", because there is
no such thing. There is force exerted by gravity and in the absence of
any opposing force it accelerates objects at the same rate: 9.8m/s/s.

But there are a couple of opposing forces. The friction of skis on snow,
and as you gain speed, drag due to moving through the air creates an
opposing force; resulting in a maximum velocity being reached where the
snow friction and air drag precisely equals the component of gravity
that is in the direction of the slope.

And now you finally know one small fact about skiing.



Try tucking to enjoy a fall line schuss. Also try a steeper slope.

That would be a different run, wouldn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1wwq35gZlg

Once again, there are no moguls in that run.

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And since the force of gravity is almost always nearly vertical, and
the drag force is directed in opposition to velocity, the vector sum
of those forces (plus the "normal force" or resistance of the surface
to being penetrated) sum to the resultinmg accelerating force.

On Jul 4, 9:31*am, taichiskiing
wrote:
On Jul 4, 7:42 am, Alan Baker wrote:





In article
,

*taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 7:49 pm, lal_truckee wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
clip
I could do it before the age of 10.

Late bloomer.

10 year old kids may do it for its fearless and stupidity. The real
question is can you do it now? Yes, let's see it.

You almost make me think you're serious. But really, now, that's a
pretty wimpy slope AND the skier is standing upright with arms
outstretched, so wind drag makes it impossibly to pick up much speed.

"Wind drag" slows down the gravity acceleration? Fancy.

Wind drag doesn't "slow down" "gravity acceleration", because there is
no such thing. There is force exerted by gravity and in the absence of
any opposing force it accelerates objects at the same rate: 9.8m/s/s.

But there are a couple of opposing forces. The friction of skis on snow,
and as you gain speed, drag due to moving through the air creates an
opposing force; resulting in a maximum velocity being reached where the
snow friction and air drag precisely equals the component of gravity
that is in the direction of the slope.

And now you finally know one small fact about skiing.

Fancy little fact, so what makes you think that the outstretched arms
slowdown more than skiers holding their poles?

Years of research.

On Jul 4, 12:11*pm, Richard Henry wrote:
On Jul 4, 9:31*am, taichiskiing
wrote:



On Jul 4, 7:42 am, Alan Baker wrote:

In article
,

*taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 7:49 pm, lal_truckee wrote:
taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
clip
I could do it before the age of 10.

Late bloomer.

10 year old kids may do it for its fearless and stupidity. The real
question is can you do it now? Yes, let's see it.

You almost make me think you're serious. But really, now, that's a
pretty wimpy slope AND the skier is standing upright with arms
outstretched, so wind drag makes it impossibly to pick up much speed.

"Wind drag" slows down the gravity acceleration? Fancy.

Wind drag doesn't "slow down" "gravity acceleration", because there is
no such thing. There is force exerted by gravity and in the absence of
any opposing force it accelerates objects at the same rate: 9.8m/s/s.

But there are a couple of opposing forces. The friction of skis on snow,
and as you gain speed, drag due to moving through the air creates an
opposing force; resulting in a maximum velocity being reached where the
snow friction and air drag precisely equals the component of gravity
that is in the direction of the slope.

And now you finally know one small fact about skiing.

Fancy little fact, so what makes you think that the outstretched arms
slowdown more than skiers holding their poles?

Years of research.

Richard, thinking about it...this is probably something that could be
calculated. All we need is an average mass of poles...IS's
weight...and a good estimate of the snow surface coefficient of
friction.

Since IS like to dabble (to my amusement) in physics, maybe we could
crunch the numbers for him...then watch him squirm away from the
undeniable reality...Should be fun.

taichiskiing wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnmTyN0VX5o

Hey, that looks like the bike path from Squaw to Tahoe City along the
Truckee River! I know that path - it follows the old railroad right of
way from back in the 1930s.

You be careful out there - I was biking along that very same path and
some idiot in his car on the road above lost control, came off the road
crossing the path perpendicularly and knocking the woman biker directly
in front of me into the air and down into the river; his car also landed
in the river, upright. I check on the woman - no immediate life threat,
breathing, not drowning (shallow water), no bleeding, coherent; so I
made a quick check on the driver. Sitting in his car in the river,
comfortable, and talking on his phone with his lawyer. Asshole. He never
did check on the woman he hit.

So stay alert - it may seem you're away from traffic, but traffic can
come out and get you.

hey asshole ,
take a few lessons in skiing and photography !!!!!!!
Dick



"taichiskiing" wrote in message
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On Jul 4, 6:13 am, "D." wrote:
you call yourself a cameraman .
i hope you can do better than
that " piece of **** " video .
Dick

No, I call myself a skier. It is a ski forum, do you ski? Are you
lost? Or just lost your mind?


IS


"taichiskiing" wrote in message

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Interesting moment caught on tape; see the spinning camera shot toward
the end of the clip,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UreDL2Zshvw

As a cameraman, I suppose to keep the lead skier in the picture, and
when I formation ski with someone as a "wingman," I usually duplicate
the lead skier's every move, so, when he spun I followed suit and not
realizing I was holding the camera.

"Mind thinks, body moves," total body automation.

Gapper troll,
IS

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:36:13 -0700 (PDT), taichiskiing
wrote:

On Jul 3, 7:51 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,

taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,

taichiskiing wrote:

Yes, it is called "go down the fall-line."

What so funny, can you do it?


IS

I could do it before the age of 10.

10 year old kids may do it for its fearless and stupidity.
The real question is can you do it now? Yes, let's see it.

I can do it on one leg.

You only think you can, but no, don't think that you can track a
"straight line" on two legs, let alone on leg.

Unfortunately (and I realize this is probably to
hard for you to grasp), this is *summer*. The ski season is
over and the golf season is in full swing.

There's endless ski season if you know how,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnmTyN0VX5o

Why do you call it "rollerblade skiing?" Most of us just call it
"rollerblading" or "in-line skating". The only thing you're doing
that most people don't is waving your arms around a little while
you're at it; how does that make it "skiing"?

bw

On Jul 5, 8:37*am, bdubya wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 06:36:13 -0700 (PDT), taichiskiing



wrote:
On Jul 3, 7:51 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,

*taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 3, 5:17 pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,

*taichiskiing wrote:

Yes, it is called "go down the fall-line."

What so funny, can you do it?


IS

I could do it before the age of 10.

10 year old kids may do it for its fearless and stupidity.
The real question is can you do it now? Yes, let's see it.

I can do it on one leg.

You only think you can, but no, don't think that you can track a
"straight line" on two legs, let alone on leg.

Unfortunately (and I realize this is probably to
hard for you to grasp), this is *summer*. The ski season is
over and the golf season is in full swing.

There's endless ski season if you know how,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnmTyN0VX5o

Why do you call it "rollerblade skiing?" * Most of us just call it
"rollerblading" or "in-line skating". *The only thing you're doing
that most people don't is waving your arms around a little while
you're at it; *how does that make it "skiing"?



Well he does that on skis too, and calls THAT something different, so
it fits the pattern.

taichiskiing wrote:
On Jul 4, 6:13 am, "D." wrote:
you call yourself a cameraman .
i hope you can do better than
that " piece of **** " video .
Dick

No, I call myself a skier. It is a ski forum, do you ski? Are you
lost? Or just lost your mind?


IS

"taichiskiing" wrote in message

...

Interesting moment caught on tape; see the spinning camera shot toward
the end of the clip,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UreDL2Zshvw
As a cameraman, I suppose to keep the lead skier in the picture, and
when I formation ski with someone as a "wingman," I usually duplicate
the lead skier's every move, so, when he spun I followed suit and not
realizing I was holding the camera.
"Mind thinks, body moves," total body automation.
Gapper troll,
IS
So....why are the guys in this forum so nasty? Anyway, that is a cool
example of big time muscle memory. And yes you are an amatuer cameraman,
but that makes it all the more difficult to video a skier when you don't
have stabilizing outriggers, cushioned eyepieces and all the goodies
that Warren Miller camera guys get to use!
gr

On Jul 4, 11:05 am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,

taichiskiing wrote:

Fancy little fact, so what makes you think that the outstretched arms
slowdown more than skiers holding their poles?

Yes, absolutely. Look up "drag coefficient" and "area".

You forgot the torque/de-stability generated by swinging those poles
around.


That would be a different run, wouldn't it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1wwq35gZlg

Once again, there are no moguls in that run.

Once again, you ain't got no talent to see it.

I can see the tops of your boots at all times. Hence: no moguls.

Your narrow-minded definition doesn't shed the light on this subject.
You get stuck on the *sizes* of the "moguls" and missed the
*techniques* of "mogul skiing." Taichi Skiing/line-skiing tends to
shrink the size of the moguls as it rides the equal equilibrium-line
through the moguls.


IS


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