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"Normal" or "Premium" Skis??
Any chat on whether the "premium" skis offered by most hire-shops are worth the
extra? I know that it's not the most urgent topic of discussion but it affects everyone. On average, the "premium" skis demand a 40 pound premium. I've read the sales pitch from the manufacturers and hire companies but would be interested to hear about someone's own experience. Are the 'technological' advancements significant? If so, how do they affect our skiing? Is there a material difference? Do they affect different people in different ways ie. depending on their ability or style of skiing? I don't know what standard of skiier I am. I'm just learning how to carve. Should I opt for the "premium" option?? (nb, I am a student - poor!!) Has anyone tried the twin-tipped skis? I've seen a few kids use them at the local dry slope. Do they allow freestyle skiing without any sacrifices? In particular, do they affect the traditional 'freeride' functionality? Thanks for any replies! Niall |
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"NIALLBRUCE" wrote in message
... Any chat on whether the "premium" skis offered by most hire-shops are worth the extra? I know that it's not the most urgent topic of discussion but it affects everyone. On average, the "premium" skis demand a 40 pound premium. I've read the sales pitch from the manufacturers and hire companies but would be interested to hear about someone's own experience. I wouldn't claim to be a great skier and I've never done a side by side comparison but I went 3 times last season - once with some planks that I was given for free, once with standard rental and once with premium rental. Both rentals were better than the planks because they were at least carvers but I couldn't honestly say I could tell the difference between the rentals. P.S. I stuck with the planks when my friends hired carvers just to stubbornly show that I could. I like to think that it improved my technique :-) Are the 'technological' advancements significant? If so, how do they affect our skiing? Is there a material difference? The standard will be at most one year older. Do they affect different people in different ways ie. depending on their ability or style of skiing? I don't know what standard of skiier I am. I'm just learning how to carve. Should I opt for the "premium" option?? (nb, I am a student - poor!!) Looking in the ellisbrigham catalogue at just the K2 range I see that the skis rated as easiest to use are also the cheapest so why pay extra for something you are not going to do as well on? Has anyone tried the twin-tipped skis? I've seen a few kids use them at the local dry slope. Do they allow freestyle skiing without any sacrifices? In particular, do they affect the traditional 'freeride' functionality? Since twin tips are for skiing backwards and you haven't yet mastered a forwards carve I don't see why you would want them. Thanks for any replies! Niall P.S. Rental shops are happy to swap skis - you could always try switching part way through the week and seeing if it makes any difference. |
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"Alun Evans" wrote in message ... Some of my friends being taught to carve by the ESF in La Plagne this year were told by their instructor to go and dump the planks of wood they were on for some real skis. He then swapped skis with one of the girls for her to tell the difference, which she could. (He was testing some of Salomon's next seasons skis to be fair). I find it odd that an instructor would be using beginners skis (unless he was testing them for usability for beginners). I can't believe that anywhere really rents "planks". As far as I am aware I've never been given anything more than a year old. The one thing that I would look out for is the condition of the skis - I've asked for another pair where the edges weren't sharp or the base looked like it had been skiing gravel. |
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"Nick Hounsome" wrote in message
P.S. Rental shops are happy to swap skis - you could always try switching part way through the week and seeing if it makes any difference. And if you do do this, the rental shop will often give you premium skis instead for no extra cost, probably to save themselves the hassle of you coming back again. -- kitemap |
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"Alun Evans" wrote in message ... On Wed 10 Nov '04 at 21:50 (NIALLBRUCE) wrote: Any chat on whether the "premium" skis offered by most hire-shops are worth the extra? I know that it's not the most urgent topic of discussion but it affects everyone. On average, the "premium" skis demand a 40 pound premium. I've read the sales pitch from the manufacturers and hire companies but would be interested to hear about someone's own experience. So I'm one of the people who still hires skis, and I do go for the "premium" option these days, though given the total cost of the week's hire x 2, and the reliability factor, it is making me think I may buy my own skis this year. Unless you ski a minimum of 2-3 weeks a year I can't see the economics in this - you'd have to keep them for 3 or 4 years at least to make it worthwhile. I bought a pair some years ago but only used them for 3 years and frankly it was a waste of money. Nowadays I just rent good skis - you get the latest models every time and if you don't like them you just go back & get another pair. You don't have to carry them round airports (or pay excess baggage charges) and you don't have to pay the annual servicing - when you add that up over 3 or 4 years it can come to half as much again on the cost of the skis. You also need a sensible place to store them. Many people put them in the loft which is a really bad idea - they get much too hot during the summer, dry out & suffer accordingly. Skiing on "Planks" won't help you progress - but then again skiing on race skiis won't help you much either if you arn't good enough to use them. There are usually 3 or 4 different levels of ski in most hire shops in Europe & you need to try & find the best level for your ability. There is just no point in renting poor quality skis - having paid so much to get to the snow in the first place it seems a false economy. As above, neither is there much point in renting the highest spec skis if you don't have the technique. Look at it this way, you are unlikely to be able to throw a Ferrari into a four wheel drift at 100mph if you only passed your driving test yesterday! On a related but different not it is absolutely worth buying your own boots - even if you ski only once a year. |
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NIALLBRUCE avait énoncé :
Any chat on whether the "premium" skis offered by most hire-shops are worth the extra? I know that it's not the most urgent topic of discussion but it affects everyone. On average, the "premium" skis demand a 40 pound premium. I've read the sales pitch from the manufacturers and hire companies but would be interested to hear about someone's own experience. Are the 'technological' advancements significant? If so, how do they affect our skiing? Is there a material difference? Do they affect different people in different ways ie. depending on their ability or style of skiing? I don't know what standard of skiier I am. I'm just learning how to carve. Should I opt for the "premium" option?? (nb, I am a student - poor!!) Has anyone tried the twin-tipped skis? I've seen a few kids use them at the local dry slope. Do they allow freestyle skiing without any sacrifices? In particular, do they affect the traditional 'freeride' functionality? Thanks for any replies! Niall It will be my 30st year of ski this year (from one to three/four weeks a year). I have owned my skis until 10 years ago, since then, I am renting premiums (although I consider myself as an intermediate skier). It may seem stupid, but considering that when you own your ski you have to get them "prepared" (and most often "repaired" every time you go (so for me 2 to 4 times a year) at an average cost of euros 30 (ca 20 for farting + every 2 times 50 in total for repairs), I consider that with the premium I get the technologically best ski (I could never afford the typical 700 euro per pair for the premium in new), at a decent cost... But this is of course just my humble opinion ;-) Dominique -- Dominique Foucart Site for hiking trails in Giffre Valley: http://dfoucart.tripod.com/randosamoens Studio rental in lovely Samoens: http://dfoucart.tripod.com/lovelysamoens/id3.html |
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Indeed renting "premium" skis is often good value compared to owning new
ones, but just to throw another view into the mixture... I've rented premiums for the last 15+ years but the three of years proved to be just too frustrating. I found that since the introduction of the premium carvers and especially "Fat-Mid" All Mountain skis, finding a ski that suited my style/ability wasn't easy... Some were OK, many were a nightmare and a few were great, but it took me best part of 3 days to find the "great" ones through trial and error... The next year I couldn't find the great ones from last year as the makes/models had all changed and so the whole trial and error thing started all over again. I consider these 2 to 3 days each year to be largely wasted piste time, so this year I have bought one of the "great" skis from last year (secondhand £170 and 1/3 of last years RRP). Whilst this means servicing and hauling them through airports, etc, at least I "hit the ground running/skiing" so to speak as soon as I arrive... For me, this ability to enjoy my piste time to the full from the first day far outweighs the additional service costs and baggage inconvenience, plus I only need to use them for 3 weeks tops and they have paid for themselves compared to premium rentals... Chances are I'll probably use them for 8+ weeks (3-4 years) skiing so what I save in rental over this period will easily cover the servicing costs, with premium rentals being £60+ a week. Steve "Dominique Foucart" wrote in message : NIALLBRUCE avait énoncé : Any chat on whether the "premium" skis offered by most hire-shops are worth the extra? I know that it's not the most urgent topic of discussion but it affects everyone. On average, the "premium" skis demand a 40 pound premium. I've read the sales pitch from the manufacturers and hire companies but would be interested to hear about someone's own experience. Are the 'technological' advancements significant? If so, how do they affect our skiing? Is there a material difference? Do they affect different people in different ways ie. depending on their ability or style of skiing? I don't know what standard of skiier I am. I'm just learning how to carve. Should I opt for the "premium" option?? (nb, I am a student - poor!!) Has anyone tried the twin-tipped skis? I've seen a few kids use them at the local dry slope. Do they allow freestyle skiing without any sacrifices? In particular, do they affect the traditional 'freeride' functionality? Thanks for any replies! Niall It will be my 30st year of ski this year (from one to three/four weeks a year). I have owned my skis until 10 years ago, since then, I am renting premiums (although I consider myself as an intermediate skier). It may seem stupid, but considering that when you own your ski you have to get them "prepared" (and most often "repaired" every time you go (so for me 2 to 4 times a year) at an average cost of euros 30 (ca 20 for farting + every 2 times 50 in total for repairs), I consider that with the premium I get the technologically best ski (I could never afford the typical 700 euro per pair for the premium in new), at a decent cost... But this is of course just my humble opinion ;-) Dominique -- Dominique Foucart Site for hiking trails in Giffre Valley: http://dfoucart.tripod.com/randosamoens Studio rental in lovely Samoens: http://dfoucart.tripod.com/lovelysamoens/id3.html |
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