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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
Evojeesus wrote:
http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...skis-cheating/ I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 4:48*pm, "Bob F" wrote:
Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. Is he from those places where everyone must ski the powder in exact the same radius turns so that the tracks fit side-by-side? Well, if people have trouble dealing with other people's tracks in powder they should consider investing in modern rockered powder skis |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 9:18*am, Evojeesus wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:48*pm, "Bob F" wrote: Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk.... I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. Is he from those places where everyone must ski the powder in exact the same radius turns so that the tracks fit side-by-side? Well, if people have trouble dealing with other people's tracks in powder they should consider investing in modern rockered powder skis Not everyone must. But it sure is nice. And we've been doing it for years. Since skis were 200+. The difference was that it took skill and practice. The lowering of the bar WRT experience results in more of those that can _negotiate_ powder but not ski it well messing it up. It's not "my thoughts" on snowboarders that are relevant. They DO change/ruin the powder. NEVER before snowboards were areas of powder smashed down as opposed to cut up and still skiable. As well as the area after new snow that is now smashed and wavy underneath as opposed to just more "double deep" snow. I'll have to look up those skis. I don't really know what you are talking about. Are they the ones with both ends turned up? So that they can ski backwards? Like we always could do anyway, but why would you? |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 5:39*pm, pigo wrote:
I'll have to look up those skis. I don't really know what you are talking about. Are they the ones with both ends turned up? Look up Rossignol S7:s and reviews, both ends are tapered and turned up. Funky-looking things. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On 10/20/10 8:18 AM, Evojeesus wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:48 pm, "Bob wrote: Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. Is he from those places where everyone must ski the powder in exact the same radius turns so that the tracks fit side-by-side? Spooning turns is not a requirement - just courtesy. Courtesy is not often seen these days. You maybe have heard of the "Tragedy of the Commons?" It also takes skill to turn where you want, not where the ski/board wants. Such skill is also lacking these days - everyone is depending on the latest equipment to remove the need for skill and experience, and it apparently so serves. Plenty of unskilled skiers out in the fresh (and everywhere else.) Well, if people have trouble dealing with other people's tracks in powder they should consider investing in modern rockered powder skis Or just learn how to ski. Dancing in the chop is fun. Last year I used 15 year old Snow Rangers I found leaning on a wall here in Truckee. Excellent skis for chop and powder (and junk and cement.) |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
lal_truckee wrote:
Or just learn how to ski. Where is the fun in that I want a magic bullet the does everything for me. I am talking to a client who wants to put in paddle shifters on steering wheel, because he thinks it will make him go faster. Of course if you run out of revs at the start of long straight and coast down the straight on the rev limiter a gear ratio change would make all the difference in your lap time. A tenth of a second saving with a paddle shifter would not make a difference. But people have a tendency to want the easy way out and think the latest trick is the hot setup Over 90 percent of the people I advise could improve their skills by having more time driving, it works the same way with skiing. As I told my intern you get out of life what you put into it. It is only cheating if the organizing body has ruled it illegal. m |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 8:59*am, lal_truckee wrote:
On 10/20/10 8:18 AM, Evojeesus wrote: On Oct 20, 4:48 pm, "Bob *wrote: Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk.... I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. Is he from those places where everyone must ski the powder in exact the same radius turns so that the tracks fit side-by-side? Spooning turns is not a requirement - just courtesy. Courtesy is not often seen these days. You maybe have heard of the "Tragedy of the Commons?" Holy ****. Irony meter smears big snowboarder turns across a virgin field of powder. Dickless Lloyd talking about courtesY? The way he lies about me here? BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 9:59*am, lal_truckee wrote:
On 10/20/10 8:18 AM, Evojeesus wrote: On Oct 20, 4:48 pm, "Bob *wrote: Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk.... I'd be interested in Pigo's thoughts, judgeing from his thoughts on Snowboarders "ruining" the powder. Is he from those places where everyone must ski the powder in exact the same radius turns so that the tracks fit side-by-side? Spooning turns is not a requirement - just courtesy. Courtesy is not often seen these days. You maybe have heard of the "Tragedy of the Commons?" It also takes skill to turn where you want, not where the ski/board wants. Such skill is also lacking these days - everyone is depending on the latest equipment to remove the need for skill and experience, and it apparently so serves. Plenty of unskilled skiers out in the fresh (and everywhere else.) Or just learn how to ski. Dancing in the chop is fun. Last year I used 15 year old Snow Rangers I found leaning on a wall here in Truckee. Excellent skis for chop and powder (and junk and cement.) Where do you find "chop" out there? Do you have boardfree runs or something. When I look up at board infested areas there is no "crud". |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 5:59*pm, lal_truckee wrote:
On 10/20/10 8:18 AM, Evojeesus wrote: Well, if people have trouble dealing with other people's tracks in powder they should consider investing in modern rockered powder skis Or just learn how to ski. Dancing in the chop is fun. Last year I used 15 year old Snow Rangers I found leaning on a wall here in Truckee. Excellent skis for chop and powder (and junk and cement.) I can ski, but having to steer the stiff normal-camber ski through crappy variable snow is goddamned hard work! I've tried rockered skis and with those I can just coast through the turn since the rockered parts of the ski are already bent in the right direction - I can confidently ski a lot faster - JIIIHHAA!! And for the record, I'll never stop hip-angulating. I urge everyone to try these things before condemning them, they make everyone a better skier no matter what's the starting level. |
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