Quick release method for lift tickets?

The Real Bev wrote:

Compassion is absolutely worthless by itself. Doing something about it is
what counts. I'd rather have a million people who could actually stand on
their own feet than a million people who desperately need compassion. Some
people say "Where's my check?" and some people say "I need a job." If
compassion means an increasing number of people dependent on welfare, then
compassion is actually destructive. Yes, we need to take care of people who
for one reason or another can't take care of themselves, but goddammit do we
have to create MORE of them?

Sorry.. just wanted to see that part again.

Excellent post all around.

-klaus

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:01:20 -0600, AstroPax
wrote:

Clinton is a perfect example of a bad actor *and* a bad leader. He
was a horrible Commander-in-Chief...just ask anyone that was in the
military during his two terms.

Friend of mine did two years in Clinton's Navy, liked Clinton, and
despises Bush.

bw

"The Real Bev" wrote in message
...

Marie Antoinette was out of touch, not vicious, when she said "Let them
eat
cake."

Speaking of bad press -- Marie actually said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche",
which translates closer to "Let them eat buns".

In message , VtSkier
writes

And make sure you get the pronunciation right:
Pasty rhymes with nasty.
Pastie rhymes with hasty.

Thank you for that. I would have surely gotten
it wrong. Though in some English verse somewhere
I did hear of a hasty pasty.

That's a hasty pudding.

Pasties are easy: for each one get half a pound of chuck or skirt cut in
pieces, a pound of thinly sliced potatoes, a quarter of a pound of
finely cut onions and a quarter of a pound of shredded swedes or
turnips. And some salt pepper and herbs.
Make a pound of shortcrust pastry with half butter and half lard, roll
it out into a circle, then arrange the food on half of it, leaving an
inch or so clear at the edge. First line it with swede, then put a
layer of potato slices, then the onions, then the meat mixed with the
seasonings, then a last thin layer of potato.

If you're being fancy you can wall off a bit at one end and fill it with
jam to give a two-course meal.
Then fold the pastry over and crimp it round the curved edge.
Bake in a moderate oven until its all cooked.

It should be a full meal for a manual labourer, and when you throw it
down the mineshaft to him (wrapped in a cloth) shouldn't break.

--
Sue ];(

"The instigator of the latest devastating attack on the USA
allegedly lives in "Heaven". They gonna invade there?"

The Real Bev wrote:

There are times I wish I watched the news so I could actually hear
what was said instead of relying on The Press to provide truncated quotes.
OTOH, then I'd have to hear way too much crap...

That wouldn't help, since TV shows select 20 sec clips to their own
nefarious ends. That's why the 5+ minutes of Bush-9/11 vide is so telling.

Hwever:

No matter what your source, a conscientious citizen will make sure to
see/hear about any event from partisans of all possible sides, then make
up his own mind. The media has deteriorated (actually I don't believe it
was ever elevated) to where each source just presents it's own spin,
even to the point of selecting slanted 20 sec clips reinforcing their
own often bizarre take. Unless a person can assure me he reads/watches
the left sources as much/as often as the right sources I don't believe
he's a good citizen, nor does he have a clue.

The main problem is we don't actually have an active left in this
country. We have a middle and a right and an ultra right. That's why we
look so strange to the rest of the civilized world. One only has to read
world wide newspapers to ascertain this fact. BTW, it's allot easier to
keep up with the world now that so many international sources are on the
net. In my school days I had to go every week to the reading library and
scan the papers - you should have seen me trying to read Le Monde; it
was a struggle, but I figured it was important to read at least one
source not in English.

On 08 Sep 2005 18:34:01 EDT, Sven Golly
wrote:

bdubya wrote in
:

Friend of mine did two years in Clinton's Navy, liked Clinton, and
despises Bush.

Two years eh? That's sure a long-term perspective.

I guess I must have misunderstood "just ask anyone that was in the
military during his two terms," then.

bw

Richard Henry wrote:

"The Real Bev" wrote:

Marie Antoinette was out of touch, not vicious, when she said "Let them
eat cake."

Speaking of bad press -- Marie actually said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche",
which translates closer to "Let them eat buns".

Certainly easier to carry in your pocket while you're watching the
executions. Thoughtful of her, wasn't it? Another misunderstood heroine...

--
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Qu'ils mangent de la merde.

On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 13:06:53 -0700, The Real Bev
wrote:

Not the same thing. Saying that 2+2=5 is an error. Saying that Charlton
Heston and the NRA held their annual meeting deliberately in whatever place
just had a headlining gun tragedy when the meeting had been scheduled months
in advance of whatever is a bold-faced lie.

Bev, ABC planned "The Invasion" for well over a year now and they
postponed it and advertisements for it because it had some big
references to a hurricane in it. The city in question did have a
terrible gun tragedy and instead of showing sympathy, like many
organizations and people do in such circumstances, Heston and the NRA
came anyway. I'm sorry but I don't recall Moore saying that the NRA
purposely rescheduled their meeting to go to this place. They did
deliberately come even when asked not to come by the mayor. That is
deliberately showing up.

That's two parts. Understanding and repair. I don't care if he understands
as long as he fixes. Whenever I hear about a politician (and just about ALL

In my view, you need to understand to fix, or at least understand
enough to hire competent people who have a record of fixing. That does
not including appointing your college buddies to posts of importance
because you think it's cool. grin

a politician or reporter after some tragedy, I fully intend to yell **** OFF
ASSHOLE until he goes away.

Like Cheney got today in Mississippi, I believe it was?

Marie Antoinette was out of touch, not vicious, when she said "Let them eat

Well, I'd get that if this were a monarchy. It's not.

And didn't he and Bess just get on a train out of DC when Ike took over?

Pretty much. He was miffed that Eisenhowere refused to follow
tradition by meeting him in the White House for tea (Ike wanted to be
President upon entering the White House for the first time), but yes,
Truman hopped on the train and went home.

On 08 Sep 2005 16:50:16 EDT, Sven Golly
wrote:

also don't believe in tax breaks for having kids beyond 1 or 2 -- if at
all.

I actually wonder if we shouldn't tax a bit more for kids beyond 2.
Not sure I'd support that in the end, but I certainly wouldn't
increase taxes for breeding like rabbits.

Rich Heimlich wrote:
On 08 Sep 2005 16:50:16 EDT, Sven Golly
wrote:


also don't believe in tax breaks for having kids beyond 1 or 2 -- if at
all.


I actually wonder if we shouldn't tax a bit more for kids beyond 2.
Not sure I'd support that in the end, but I certainly wouldn't
increase taxes for breeding like rabbits.

The whole problem there is that you ar only punishing the kids, which
really have it hard enough as it is. If you're unlucky enough to end up,
say..., 6th, you're screwed. Meanwhile it's basehits for the parents.
Tough, tough problem.

-klaus