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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
(The earliest I can see an ortho is 1.5 months away, so I'm asking the
group.) Everyone must be thinking I'm totally out of shape, but not really. I'm in a reasonably good physical health. I haven't been exercising solely for skiing, but the way I injured myself just gets me so mad 'cause I was literally standing still when it started happening. I was standing facing uphill with ski tips together but tips apart. (Don't ask me why I did that, I was busy trying to read the map and telling my young son to put his gloves back on at the same time.) Obviously, I started sliding backward, tips kept spreading apart, and somehow I couldn't lift either ski. I was doing the 'split' till I couldn't hold any longer and felt backward. Both knees came inside, and felt a 'pop' on the inside of my right knee. I felt the way how the classic beginner does who'd never been on skis. Actually I must've looked worse. Felt a pain on the inside of right knee, stayed down for a minute or so. The pain went away and was able to gently ski down. No sign of swelling or pain since the injury point and just tender and a bit sore. Am able to put weight on the injured side, trying not to twist at the knee. Took a couple of motrin since then, but I have to say there is no pain, no swelling, a bit sore and tight. Very minor instability if I can call it that. The soreness is on the inside of the right knee and there is no hyperextending. Has anyone injured just the MCL? Does it feel different than ACL injury? Do you think the MCL injury heals itself based on the symptoms I have? Would it be ok to ski gently? (My son is taking lessons and I need to accompany him on the chair 'cause he's too young.) |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
"FGreen" wrote in message om... Has anyone injured just the MCL? Does it feel different than ACL injury? Do you think the MCL injury heals itself based on the symptoms I have? Would it be ok to ski gently? (My son is taking lessons and I need to accompany him on the chair 'cause he's too young.) I sprained the hell out of my MCL two years ago skiing. Felt the pop, the pain went away after 5 minutes, but by the time I got home that night it hurt pretty bad. The next morning I could hardly move it, and any lateral force caused excrutiating pain. After a few days I could more or less walk OK. Stairs were a problem, and the knee was fairly unstable for months. Thankfully it was towards the end of the ski season and I called it that. Two years later, the knee is back to normal, but the pain lingered for quite a long while. I play hockey and go caving... took me a while to get back full mobility and I wore a brace for about 6 months. It sounds like yours isn't as bad as mine was, but I'd wait until I could withstand significant lateral pressure and there was no instability before I got back into it. Course I can't imagine accompanying the son on lessons would do much as long as you're careful. Talk to a doc about it. Jon |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
"FGreen" wrote in message om... I was standing facing uphill with ski tips together but tips apart. (Don't ask me why I did that, I was busy trying to read the map and telling my young son to put his gloves back on at the same time.) Obviously, I started sliding backward, tips kept spreading apart, and somehow I couldn't lift either ski. I was doing the 'split' till I couldn't hold any longer and felt backward. Both knees came inside, and felt a 'pop' on the inside of my right knee. Sometimes the best technique is to give up and fall down. |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
Richard Henry wrote:
"FGreen" wrote I was standing facing uphill with ski tips together but tips apart. (Don't ask me why I did that, I was busy trying to read the map and telling my young son to put his gloves back on at the same time.) Obviously, I started sliding backward, tips kept spreading apart, and somehow I couldn't lift either ski. I was doing the 'split' till I couldn't hold any longer and felt backward. Both knees came inside, and felt a 'pop' on the inside of my right knee. Sometimes the best technique is to give up and fall down. True enough. I prefer to set it down on my terms rather than flailing for balance and going down in a way that's not my choosing. According to Vermont Ski Safety, trying to recover from an off-balance position is one of the best ways to tear an ACL. Every skier should be aware of this: http://www.vermontskisafety.com/faq_...iers_tips.html The method of falling that FGreen describes (I think he meant to say tips together, tails apart, facing uphill) is damn hard to get out of once it starts. It's caught me a couple of times. Anyway, if I was in FGreen's position, I'd find a qualified medical professional to look at it sooner rather than later. -- //-Walt // // http://tinyurl.com/3gg3e |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
Oh yeah, don't rule out a possible tear of the medial meniscus.
For some basic knee info, check out the following sites: http://www.eorthopod.com/eorthopodV2...s.main/area/17 http://www.scoi.com/kneeanat.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001076.htm http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/001071.htm |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
FGreen wrote:
(The earliest I can see an ortho is 1.5 months away, so I'm asking the group.) CLIP description of fall, injury Why? There are orthopods everywhere - several work in the first aid room at my home mountain. You should be able to see one Real Soon unless you were on a solo to the North Pole without a radio (no radio for the added interest factor.) You might want to just drop by first aid and see who's there next time you visit the slopes - you should have done it immediately. Anyway, given the audible "pop" and fall desription, I'd suspect an ACL tear. Wife has a 15 year old total tear (if you get orthoscopy, insist on getting a video record - damndest thing to look inside your own or another's knee) and skis without an ACL. After the initial pain pretty good mobility returns, which can fool you. If it's a full ACL tear you can't hurt it anymore, but can screw up the miniscus, which never heals. If it's a partial ACL or MCL you can exceed the residual strength and complete the tear, which is bad. The MCL will heal and be nearly as strong as ever - mine only hurts occasionally - vitamin I takes care of it. Bdubya covered all this pretty well. I just want to add - if it's an ACL, Get It Fixed. They declined to work on the wife because they said she was too old already (15 years ago, when she was just a darling young girl of advanced years - damn HBO) and now she's considering having it down at her current advanced age which won't make rehab any easier; get it fixed now. (rec.skiing removed - it's a dead group that only exists on some servers because their sys ads are too lazy to remove it.) |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
Sometimes the best technique is to give up and fall down.
True enough. I prefer to set it down on my terms rather than flailing for balance and going down in a way that's not my choosing. According to Vermont Ski Safety, trying to recover from an off-balance position is one of the best ways to tear an ACL. Every skier should be aware of this: http://www.vermontskisafety.com/faq_...iers_tips.html The method of falling that FGreen describes (I think he meant to say tips together, tails apart, facing uphill) is damn hard to get out of once it starts. It's caught me a couple of times. Anyway, if I was in FGreen's position, I'd find a qualified medical professional to look at it sooner rather than later. I know, I know... I normally fall, but it was one of those cases where you are in denial because you were barely moving. I was thinking, 'What the heck?', followed by 'I can recover this', by 'Oh, sh*t'. Actually, I don't even know if there was a way to fall safely because my legs were fairly apart already. Couldn't fall sideways, couldn't fall forward, so the only way was to fall backward which messed up the knee. And, yes, I meant to say tips together, tails apart, facing uphill. Anyhow, I saw my primary doc, who agreed that I should see an ortho, and I'm seeing my ortho next week. Thanks for comments and suggestions. |
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Knee injury while *standing still* - well, almost.
Why? There are orthopods everywhere - several work in the first aid room at my home mountain. You should be able to see one Real Soon unless you were on a solo to the North Pole without a radio (no radio for the added interest factor.) You might want to just drop by first aid and see who's there next time you visit the slopes - you should have done it immediately. Yes, my 5 yo. son was taking lesson at a special program at the North Pole. Kidding... I pulled up the ortho appointment (saw my PCP today, but was no big help). Even that took half-begging and half-threatening. It didn't occur to me to go to first aid right away because there was no lingering pain associated with it. I should've have in hindsight. Thanks for the reply. To all else that replied - thanks, and I will post follow-up after seeing the ortho. I hope it's not a tear. The 'pop' nags me, but then lack of pain or instability assures me, which could be a false sense of security. |
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