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  #111  
Old January 12th 05, 12:23 PM
MoonMan
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Champ wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0000, "MoonMan"
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But I can't race!

Er, this whole sub-thread is about a ski racer not wearing a helmet!


In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for
racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet.

Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying
"but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken
ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it!


So, your entire contribution to this thread is valueless, then.


Why?

Chris *:-)


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  #112  
Old January 12th 05, 01:04 PM
Champ
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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:23:51 -0000, "MoonMan"
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Champ wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 09:59:00 -0000, "MoonMan"
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But I can't race!

Er, this whole sub-thread is about a ski racer not wearing a helmet!

In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for
racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet.

Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying
"but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken
ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it!


So, your entire contribution to this thread is valueless, then.


Why?


Hmmm. You're starting to look troll-like
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  #113  
Old January 12th 05, 05:14 PM
pete devlin
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In message , MoonMan
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In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for
racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet.

Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying
"but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken ut
of our hands, the insurance companies require it!


AFAIAA it is only compulsory for downhill. I'm not sure about Super G
but you can still do GS and slalom without a helmet.
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Old January 12th 05, 05:57 PM
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pete devlin wrote:
In message , MoonMan
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In the UK at least in the eastern region, Helmets are required for
racing. at FIS level they are not required for slalom, yet.

Originally we introduced the requirement to stop teenage boys saying
"but xxx doesn't wear one so why should I?" but now it's been taken
ut of our hands, the insurance companies require it!


AFAIAA it is only compulsory for downhill. I'm not sure about Super G
but you can still do GS and slalom without a helmet.


I'm waiting for a PC to install windows, so I checked the FIS rules. They
are as follows

Downhill - Helmets Mandatory for all
Super-G - Helmets mandatory for all
GS - Helmets mandatory for children, Juniors and Masters
Slalom - no regulation (apart from design and size of sponsors logos)

These where the 2004 rules from The FIS Website.


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Old January 13th 05, 05:42 AM
Mike M. Miskulin
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Champ wrote in
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:09:25 -0600, D wrote:

Champ wrote:
That's cos yanks are weenies :-)


Funny, I've only been in two wrecks and one was at
Kirkwood, first run of the day by a skier taking
a shortcut on my blind side. I was glad I had the
helmet even if they make you look like a dork.

Do you ride moguls? I suppose its a bit differnt
out west, and I have noticed that far fewer wear
them, but here in the East(ice) coast, cement has
more give than some of the bumps. Took a header
on a 2x black a few years back, again glad for
the helmet.


Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this..
am missing an ear flap and was checking in on
one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure
the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet,
but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need
to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses
its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me
as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but
I've no real clue.


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Old January 13th 05, 08:19 AM
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin"
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Anyways.. maybe somebody can comment on this..
am missing an ear flap and was checking in on
one of the local shops today. I'm fairly sure
the guy was just trying to sell me on a new helmet,
but he was claiming that all (bike, ski, etc) need
to be replaced every 3 yrs as the foam core loses
its shock absorbtion ability. Sounds bogus to me
as the helmet is pretty well a sealed thing but
I've no real clue.


It's an often-quoted (by the manufacturers) guideline for motorcycle
helmets, although I think they say five years, not three. The rational
given is that as well as the foam core compressing (which definitely
does happen, leading to a looser fit) exposure to UV can affect the
composition of the shell over time as well.

Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after
anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed, as
it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible to
the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself.

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Old January 14th 05, 04:39 AM
Mike M. Miskulin
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Ace wrote in
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 05:42:21 -0000, "Mike M. Miskulin"
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Additionally (with m/c helmets) one is advised to junk them after
anything like a serious knock, as again the foam may have deformed,

as
it's designed to, around the impact site, which will not be visible

to
the naked eye, in addition ot potential damage to the shell itself.


Interesting.. well I know of at least 2 or 3 places that probably
have a good ding in them then!

Perhaps I'll take a spin thru the store and see whats around and
how many $. Then again, I can probably wait till next year as I'm
in Vermont

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Old January 15th 05, 07:57 PM
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"Champ" wrote in message
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On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:33:45 -0000, "Séan"
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Lets be sensible for a moment.....
The potential for serious injury, and I'm talking about to your childs
brain, is greatly increased whilst skiing, unlike walking to the shops!
Its not about 'litigtion' or what she might do to herself, its all the
other idiots skiing on the edge of control and about to lose it at the
next
bump in the snow.

We all know that it is folly to let your child ride a bike without a
helmet
for the same reason.


Boy this stuff makes me mad!

One of the most important things about skiing/snowboarding is being
out in such a fantastic environment, and experiencing it to the full.
Part of this is being aware of the dangers of the environment, too.

Now, the last thing I want to do is put some glassfibre between me and
that experience. And, as I know very well from riding and racing
motorcycles, putting on a helmet will cause some risk-compensation
behaviour. Far better to teach the kids that skiing is a potentially
dangerous activity, and act accordingly.

And - I really can't understand how generations of kids used to cycle
to school without a helmet (me included), but now "we all know it is
folly to let your child ride a bike without a helmet". I know no such
thing.
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Champ


You had better pop a few tranquilisers before reading this

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...439229,00.html




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Old January 15th 05, 10:36 PM
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Don't worry, there is no way on earth that Italian skiers will comply
en-masse with a helmet law. (FTAOD: I like Italy and Italians.)

This quote from the article made me laugh: "Problems arise because
some people on the slopes are wearing protection and others are not."

Er, no. The problem is that people ski beyond their ability on crowded
pistes and do not add a sufficient safety-margin when passing other
skiers.

Sammy

 




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