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When it was yellow it was named Mod X.
Blue was Axis X I guess now it's a red Apache X. I like that it is very stable but easy to turn on groomed, mogels and powder. Doesn't get twitchy on the run-out, or floppy in the crud. Try it and see. -- Mike Treseler |
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On 2004-12-22, Bob Lee penned:
That's a pretty good angle, and if you just happen to inadvertently fall in love with some skis you can tip the odds in your favor if you get something nice for your hubster just before you break the news. Think power tools or black lace. Unfortunately, we've both caught on to the fact that "one for you, one for me; two for you, two for me" just leads to bigger bills. I think he's partly in shock because he was able to buy a pair of boots off the shelf for maybe $200 and wear them comfortably with no adjustment. So the fact that I dropped over a grand on a pair of boots is hard to swallow (for both of us), despite the fact that after two days on them, and some discomfort in the left boot, they're already the most pain-free ski boot I've ever owned. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Bob Lee wrote:
Think power tools or black lace. I like it. She could present in the evening, with the lights turned low, incense burning, and a fine wine on the bedside table, wearing black lace holding a new Milwaukee Sawzall. Skies are guaranteed. |
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On 2004-12-22, Mike Treseler penned:
When it was yellow it was named Mod X. Blue was Axis X I guess now it's a red Apache X. I like that it is very stable but easy to turn on groomed, mogels and powder. Doesn't get twitchy on the run-out, or floppy in the crud. Try it and see. -- Mike Treseler Perhaps I'll be able to, this weekend. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On 2004-12-20, lal_truckee penned:
Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Well, powder and crud/slop are my two biggest problem areas, so ... getting a ski that's more work in those conditions might not be my best move. I see that once again, I haven't been detailed enough in describing my question =) Like I said - it's not difficult. If you run gates, you know how to carve - slop and crud are easier than hardback because edge-set is trivial. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I participated in one recreational race in which I had to ski around flags. My goal was to get a finishing time, which I did. I wouldn't go assuming that I know how to run gates or how to carve well =P Just hold the arc and don't try to skid. Slop and crud will not forgive a skidder. Wide skis try to help a skier by keeping them on top of the crud and slop so they can skid a bit - IMO it doesn't work - you sacrifice being able to power-care through the crud for bouncing around on top of the crud. We're back to the psychology of skiing. I've had some unpleasant experiences with "mashed potatoes/cement" type snow grabbing my skis and messing up my knee, so I'm afraid of crud, so I expect it to betray me, so I don't commit enough and sure enough, it does ... I'm not sure how to get over that psychological mess. I'm not looking for very wide skis; but I'd like to try some that are wider at the waist than what I have. It can't hurt to compare. Powder is a completely different medium because it's three dimensional - for powder you want a soft even flexing ski so you can be centered and not feel as if you must be back to force the tips up. Soft even flex ski tips come up on their own. Plus suitable powder skis, as I said, are dirt cheap if you look around. What you've said makes a lot of sense; I just don't like the idea of having different skis for different conditions. If I were going heliskiing, sure, but for lift ticket skiing, I want a single pair that I can use somewhat effectively on everything, including powder. So: A GS ski works fine and IMO better and easier than a wide waist ski in crud and slop. A wide waist ski is crap on the hardpack and ridiculous in the gates. You want one ski for most conditions that will still be usable in gates and groomers - go GS. You want to pretend to solve your crud and slop difficulties and sacrifice groomers and gates altogether, maybe a wide ski will be OK. Maybe. What do you consider to be a wide ski? -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On 2004-12-20, MattB penned:
The pair I love are not huge and fat like some trendier skis. I see them as a more sensible evolution of the ski rather than a revolution. Hey Matt, what are the dimensions of these skis you love? At what point do they go from being pleasantly wide-waisted to fat? =P -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
On 2004-12-20, MattB penned: The pair I love are not huge and fat like some trendier skis. I see them as a more sensible evolution of the ski rather than a revolution. Hey Matt, what are the dimensions of these skis you love? At what point do they go from being pleasantly wide-waisted to fat? =P Not being a big stats guy, I don't know off the top of my head. They are Salomon Super Mountains from 2000 (or so). Mine are medium which are 186 cm. This was the shortest ski I've skied since Jr. High when I got them. OK, a little googling tells me they are 110-78-100. I believe that's still considered "mid-fat". These are kind of stiff, but I love how they ski when skied aggressively. You would likely prefer something a bit softer. Matt (no problems at all with a little "junk in da trunk") |
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Bob Lee writes: Here's what I suggest - look for something in the 74-80mm range for the waist, about a 108-120mm tip, with a middling flex (not soft, not stiff). I agree: A "midfat" is a better all around ski for the non racer than a GS ski. They are just more fun than the old stiffy skis used to be, especially if you start doing bumps. I have skied for years on GS skis (Dynamic VR27, Rossi EXs, Dynastar G9) but you'd have to pry my current twintips (Dynastar Candide) out of my dead fingers. I don't do the terrain park so you'll have to ask one of the "young punks" how they perform there, but I routinely ski (mostly bumps) with them. And they hold an edge well enough that I can get a gold medal at the local NASTAR course without trying too hard. (This is a good way to show my kids they have some ways to go before they catch up :-) For info, their dimensions are (tip/waist/tail) 103/72/95 mm so basically right around what Bob describes. Pick a ski like that between mouth and eye level and go have fun. bruno. |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote:
On 2004-12-21, MattB penned: It's funny, I forget all of these tips after not being coached for the last decade. I'd like to think I just do them all naturally now, but the truth is probably more like I just do most of them naturally and learn to compensate for other bad habits that creep back in without someone shouting at me while I ski. It is nice to ski without being shouted at. Unless it's shouting like "Woo-hoo! Yeah! Nice!". But that makes my helmet tighter. Have you thought about taking the occasional lesson? In addition to the fact that I still have a lot to learn, I like lessons because they keep me honest. I can't deal with it when my husband makes suggestions, but I take it very well from an instructor. It's way easier to take advice from strangers than from a significant other, but I don't deal well with lectures -- my natural inclination is to say (or at least think) "Oh yeah?" more often than not, and that's a nuisance. The better you are, the fewer people are in your lesson. For you, it would probably be an effectively private guided tour through the gnarliest stuff on the mountain, with suggestions thrown in. On the flip side, if your personality can take it, maybe you could ask some experienced friends to watch you and comment on what they see. Excellent, especially if you have enough friends that you don't bug any one of them too frequently. Works for computers too. Also, unlike coaches, instructors don't yell at you =P On a mostly unrelated note, the goalie for my ice hockey team recently went skiing for the first time. She explained that she's not the type of person to take lessons. A few of us, some much better skiers than I, looked at each other and one said, "Well, not taking lessons is a good way to get yourself killed, if you're skiing." Not really, some people just have to work it out for themselves. Read, think, experiment, succeed (or not). Asking somebody who knows "What am I doing wrong?" and getting a useful answer isn't the same as a lesson. Whenever I've taken ANY class in anything I already have some experience in I've had to wait impatiently through the stuff I already know before getting to a useful nugget of info. So how did she do? I'm a huge fan of lessons; I'll take a lesson in just about anything I want to learn. I love benefitting from the experience of those who've come before me. Really hard for me to understand the "lessons bad" mentality. Lessons bad, books good. -- Cheers, Bev xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "Once you've provoked a few people into publicly swearing they are going to hunt you down and kill you, the thrill wears off." -Elric of Imrryr |
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"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote in message
... On 2004-12-21, VtSkier penned: Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Anyway. There are several ways to ski moguls. I can't help you with the type you see on TV, where the skier's knees are just bouncing up and down and there's no apparent lateral motion. Even if I had the guts and reflexes to do that, I value my knees pretty highly. Me too. I definatly agree. I just want to be able to bomb down with more confidence and keep up with my brother. [snip] This sound like it will work well but it also seems like a lot to think about in bumps. Wouldn't it work better to learn this on something less bumpy? Where you don't have to think so fast? This so that your body is doing the remembering and not your head. Just to be clear, I wasn't posting this stuff because I wanted advice; I'm happy with the techniques mentioned. I posted it because someone asked me to do so. I felt immediate results when I used this technique; not only did it keep my skis in the snow, it gave me a much greater feeling of control. Thank you both for your responses. I will have to read and think about your comments more carefully. I definitely think I have a lot of the problems Monique described, and know that I face the ice VtSkier described. I have marked them and will study them more when I am awake, before I head up to Okemo on my first trip of the season in just over a week. Though I suspect that trip I will be busy pushing my nephew to ski better and getting used to my new skis (my first shaped skis). The new skis should make a big difference being shorter and more maneuverable, but I also will definitely review your comments after I finish my Christmas shopping. Stephen NYC |
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