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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
Hi,
I don't have access to a ski shop so would anyone be so kind as to suggest a ski for the following conditions: -On lakes in the spring after the weather has turned warm and the surface is flat. -Can have hard or soft ice or a covering of up to an inch of corn snow .. -I skate at a leisurly pace for about 1 1/2 hours. -185 pounds, quite fit 59 years of age. -Temperature within about 10 degrees of freezing. -I'm now using 205 or 210 classic or combi skis but need some edge hold. Is there a skateable ski with a metal edge? No one seems to know. Would a 60-50-60 ski with a metal edge similar to the Fischer NC Explorer or Madshus Multigrip Pellestova do the trick? Thanks. |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
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In article , Mike Sandrin wrote: Hi, I don't have access to a ski shop so would anyone be so kind as to suggest a ski for the following conditions: -On lakes in the spring after the weather has turned warm and the surface is flat. -Can have hard or soft ice or a covering of up to an inch of corn snow . -I skate at a leisurly pace for about 1 1/2 hours. -185 pounds, quite fit 59 years of age. -Temperature within about 10 degrees of freezing. -I'm now using 205 or 210 classic or combi skis but need some edge hold. Is there a skateable ski with a metal edge? No one seems to know. _ Maybe, anything with a metal edge is probably going to have the wrong flex for high performance skating. Would a 60-50-60 ski with a metal edge similar to the Fischer NC Explorer or Madshus Multigrip Pellestova do the trick? _ That's probably your best bet if you can find a pair without the no-wax base. While I do some BC skating on nowax skis, I can't really recommend it. What you might look for are so-called camber and a half skis with a waxable base. The old Karhu pinancle comes to mind. Whether you can live the with flex of theses skis is something only you can answer. _ As a last resort and a bargain bin experiment you might try some of the really short ( 100cm ) alpine trick skis that were popular a few years ago. They'd be a bit heavy, but the flex would probably be really good. They might be too wide though. _ Good Luck! _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBQHliY2TWTAjn5N/lAQE3pQQAuTerhxaKzSroboJjNi/EHvNHdpoczLV5 RYxpcQSTVsk3mvbPy7iCxC26bUK8oWvd/bQm8GKAF3+hcebe4VbXbn06UWOF9Yy9 MQ+Yh4LgnD03D6HPHgig4JpYwb3n960ryvfGYEoyvFSbRz32ks oPRucCM20y55Rb 2kdLB0Y5L3E= =ZSU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
On 10 Apr 2004, Mike Sandrin wrote:
Hi, I don't have access to a ski shop so would anyone be so kind as to suggest a ski for the following conditions: -On lakes in the spring after the weather has turned warm and the surface is flat. -Can have hard or soft ice or a covering of up to an inch of corn snow . Is there a skateable ski with a metal edge? No one seems to know. Would a 60-50-60 ski with a metal edge similar to the Fischer NC Explorer or Madshus Multigrip Pellestova do the trick? I have Madshus Voss (60-50-55) skis with metal edges. I was skiing on fairly hard lakes with corn snow 2 weeks ago but it was classic. I tried skate-skiing for a few strokes but found it very tiring. These skis are probably too heavy for extensive skate-skiing. But then, I don't skate-ski :-) But if the ice is too hard for skiing (classic or skate), there are faster and more fun ways of travelling across lakes: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/...ics/index.html or if it's real hard: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/almgrens.jpg -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
Mike Sandrin wrote:
Hi, I don't have access to a ski shop so would anyone be so kind as to suggest a ski for the following conditions: -On lakes in the spring after the weather has turned warm and the surface is flat. -Can have hard or soft ice or a covering of up to an inch of corn snow . -I skate at a leisurly pace for about 1 1/2 hours. -185 pounds, quite fit 59 years of age. -Temperature within about 10 degrees of freezing. -I'm now using 205 or 210 classic or combi skis but need some edge hold. Is there a skateable ski with a metal edge? No one seems to know. Would a 60-50-60 ski with a metal edge similar to the Fischer NC Explorer or Madshus Multigrip Pellestova do the trick? There is also a kind of skates the Swedes use (larger and longer ones with 3-pin bindings. They use them to go out in frozen sea - and lakes i presume) .... Greetings, Ulrich -- reply to: uhausmannATbluemailDOTch |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Ulrich Hausmann wrote: There is also a kind of skates the Swedes use (larger and longer ones with 3-pin bindings. They use them to go out in frozen sea - and lakes i presume) .... The bindings on skates for 3-pinned boots are usually fixed-heel. The latest development is the use of SNS or NNN bindings/boots (free-heel), which is what I have: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/almgrens.jpg Apparently, most people buying new skates in Sweden are getting the free-heel systems. I've also read that the manufacturers of the skate blades can not keep up with the demand. Some info in English: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/timonice.html The North American expert is Jamie Hess: http://www.webskater.org/ Some photo albums of Swedish skating clubs: http://www.llk.se/foto/ http://www.bahnhof.se/~robberts/ http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/alliansen/album/ -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
Hi David,
thanks for the interesting infos. Once i saw a swedish girl here, buying a Rottefella 3-pin NN75 for her skates. That ones, definitely, were free heel. So, i had the idea ... But, for sure you're right. With the equipment, you e.g. are using, skating on ice (in long distance runs) would be very similiar to cross country skiing, wouldn't it (and therefor, probably, a good solution for the question the original poster asked)? Greetings, Ulrich David Dermott wrote: On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Ulrich Hausmann wrote: There is also a kind of skates the Swedes use (larger and longer ones with 3-pin bindings. They use them to go out in frozen sea - and lakes i presume) .... The bindings on skates for 3-pinned boots are usually fixed-heel. The latest development is the use of SNS or NNN bindings/boots (free-heel), which is what I have: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/almgrens.jpg Apparently, most people buying new skates in Sweden are getting the free-heel systems. I've also read that the manufacturers of the skate blades can not keep up with the demand. Some info in English: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/timonice.html The North American expert is Jamie Hess: http://www.webskater.org/ Some photo albums of Swedish skating clubs: http://www.llk.se/foto/ http://www.bahnhof.se/~robberts/ http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/alliansen/album/ -- reply to: uhausmannATbluemailDOTch |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
Ulrich Hausmann wrote:
There is also a kind of skates the Swedes use (larger and longer ones with 3-pin bindings. They use them to go out in frozen sea - and lakes i presume) .... David Dermott wrote: The bindings on skates for 3-pinned boots are usually fixed-heel. The latest development is the use of SNS or NNN bindings/boots (free-heel), which is what I have: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ski/almgrens.jpg Apparently, most people buying new skates in Sweden are getting the free-heel systems. I've also read that the manufacturers of the skate blades can not keep up with the demand. Some photo albums of Swedish skating clubs: http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/alliansen/album/ Found this photo on a page in your link: http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/all...n/pages/22.htm Ed Huesers http://www.grandshelters.com |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, Ed Huesers wrote:
Some photo albums of Swedish skating clubs: http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/alliansen/album/ Found this photo on a page in your link: http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/all...n/pages/22.htm "Walking on water" !! There's a little joke for 2 previous photos on that page (#19 and #20) "Oops - wait a sec., the picture should be THIS way" (picture 19 was upside down) Rough translation of commentary for this page: Båven (large lake about 60 km south-west of Stockholm) -Jan 26 2003 With the help of 2 busses we went to Båven's southern end in order to be able to skate with a tailwind to Penningby Cove where the busses waited for us. Along Båven's shores are many castles, fine nature and a rich bird life. The ice was well lubricated (by light rain in early morning), hard and really smooth. This gave an unbelievable glide in the tailwind as seen in this filmclip (27 sec 2 MB). The tour ended in sunshine and several leaders said that they had not experienced such fine ice in many years. -- David Dermott , Wolfville Ridge, Nova Scotia, Canada email: WWW pages: http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/dermott/ |
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Ski for use on ice-covered lakes?
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Ed Huesers wrote: Found this photo on a page in your link: http://www.frilufts.se/stockholm/all...n/pages/22.htm Ahhhh...Those who skied the Gatineau 55 in its last year will look at that picture, and remember "The Meach Lake Swim".. But I think the water was deeper on Meach. -Pete -- "It's a sad day for american capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park." J. Moran |
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