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"AH" wrote Thanks for the advice.. I'll certainly be really careful.. I'm not a crazy driver on normal roads, so if I'm in the snow I will certainly be taking my time.. You're welcome. Forgot one other thing. Just in case: do you realize that the car you'll be getting is an automatic? I was stumped when they told me I'll have to drive an automatic and there's no way they can get me a stick shift car the first time I did that.. So I had to learn to drive on totally different roads with different traffic sighns and rules, and above that on a type of car I've never tried had before.. |
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"Dmitry" wrote in message news:l2Hfd.533765$8_6.324504@attbi_s04... "AH" wrote Thanks for the advice.. I'll certainly be really careful.. I'm not a crazy driver on normal roads, so if I'm in the snow I will certainly be taking my time.. You're welcome. Forgot one other thing. Just in case: do you realize that the car you'll be getting is an automatic? I was stumped when they told me I'll have to drive an automatic and there's no way they can get me a stick shift car the first time I did that.. So I had to learn to drive on totally different roads with different traffic sighns and rules, and above that on a type of car I've never tried had before.. Then it will start raining, and you will be fumbling in the dark pushing and twisting every switch trying to find the windshield wiper control. |
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"pigo" wrote in message ... "AH" wrote in message .uk... "Bob Lee" wrote in message ... Stop for what? For a break! I would like to get out every 3/4 hours and walk around for 30 minutes.. When I was working for TrekAmerica tours many moons ago I used to camp at Rye Patch Reservoir. I think it's just E. of Winnemucca. There was a campground there and a nice place to get out and throw some rocks or something. If you get out of your car every 45 minutes and walk around for 30 minutes you're NEVER going to get to Reno! In your car you should be able to do it in 1 stop. But if your not used to the long USA drives take 2 and walk while the tank is filling. My foreign clients on the tours could manage about 2 hrs between stops, but they were mostly girls. pigo I meant 3 to 4 hours.. so a couple of breaks during the journey.. |
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:15:46 GMT, "Dmitry"
wrote: "AH" wrote Thanks for the advice.. I'll certainly be really careful.. I'm not a crazy driver on normal roads, so if I'm in the snow I will certainly be taking my time.. You're welcome. Forgot one other thing. Just in case: do you realize that the car you'll be getting is an automatic? I was stumped when they told me I'll have to drive an automatic and there's no way they can get me a stick shift car the first time I did that.. So I had to learn to drive on totally different roads with different traffic sighns and rules, and above that on a type of car I've never tried had before.. Sadly, this is very true. Its a result of the US love affair with low taxes on our gas and the fact that this comparatively cheap gas makes larger engines more practical to drive around, even connected to a slushbox, than overseas. In our big congested cities, manuals can be a pain as well. I have read statistics lately that even in the UK and Europe automatics are gaining popularity. Progress I suppose in one form or another, but sad for those of us who like to row our own boats. When I went to Australia I specifically ordered a stick shift rental, and they gave me an automatic. I was dissapointed. In the US its hard to buy a car with a stick, much less rent one, and driving a left hand stick would have been quite a fun change. For me the only hard part about driving on the left hand side of the road, was getting in and out of my car (I kept getting in the left side of the car on accident). Also driving on gravel roads where there was no white line to stay next to. I'd always be drifting over to the right side of the road before catching myself. I loved the traffic circles, and am confused as to why we don't have them on US roads in any kind of numbers - the ones we do have are generally "americanized" and not the real deal - though I think the one at Vail is pretty much the real thing, though it is setup so that you have to go slowly through it. nate 02 Subaru Outback MT5 (manual transmission 5 speed) |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:17:07 -0700, lal_truckee
wrote: Dmitry wrote: "lal_truckee" wrote Aren't the ones with cable on the sides and what look like aluminum beads on the tread surface supposed to work? Painful closure method, at least those nasty red things on conventional chains didn't slice your fingers open and could be dealt with nicely with Channellocks if they gave trouble. Sort of. But don't buy them, just pick them up alongside the road. Cable "chains" fall off regularly and are free for the taking. Plus they really don't work worth a dam anyway. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Cable chains are good for keeping you on the road and being able to stop. Yes they are not that good if you're concerned about getting stuck, but that's absolutely not a problem if you're on major roads and hotel parking lots. I assume you are defending "cable chains" because you've been suckered into buying them? I can't imagine any other reason. Chains are superior for all purposes, just as easy to install if you're moderately competent, just as quiet if properly fitted and installed, and CHEAPER. But in any case - cables litter the highway after a snow - just pick up what you need, if you want to try them. It'd be a favor to us who live here if you would collect the roadside trash. I agree with lal truckee, and who could argue with someone who lives in the epicenter of the chain world anyway? There is no doubt that chains are far superior in all ways when installed. Chains will actually last and not break and give incredible traction. Cables are light, and compact and okay for making it past the chain gang though. Unfortunately, they generally will fly apart after a few miles, or a few uses. nate |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 07:22:19 GMT, "AH" wrote:
"pigo" wrote in message ... He's staying at the Cliff. **NO** need for a car at all. Same at Heavenly. Once he's there, he **HOPES** that the roads close. Haha.. damn right I do That was the main reason to pay the extra $40 or so a night to stay up on the slopes.. if the road gets closed, I could have possibly the best skiing day of my life.. its a gamble, and only a small chance of coming off, but if it does it will be more than worth it.. Kirkwood, which is a ways down the road from Heavenly is where the big powder days are at, but its a tough little drive. I had a nice powder day at Heavenly skiing Mott Canyon all day while my punting friends hid from the snow in the lodge. Myself and about 10 strangers had it all to ourselves on a midweek day, and it just kept gettting deeper. Most of the rest of the mountain stayed pretty skied off unfortunately. nate |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:56 -0700, lal_truckee
wrote: Lucky wrote: "Richard Henry" wrote in message news:iikfd.18516 I carry a box with the wrong size chains in them in the back of my Jeep, just so I'll have some to show. I figure if the road is so bad I need to put chains on over the 4WD, I'm going back home instead. Heh Heh. well you can stop pretending to be a powder skier then. Going home was one of my best decisions ever. Early the morning of March 31, 1982 I was trying to force my way up the Alpine Meadows access road, backing up repeatedly and ramming my way through drift after drift; when the road became completely impassible I considered snowshoeing the last few miles - had the shoes and pack and proper clothing; but I decided to turn back. I went home. Going home was one of my best decisions ever. http://www.avalanche.org/~moonstone/...he%20Story.htm Scary. Whatever became of Anna? nate |
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:00:45 -0600, "pigo"
wrote: "bdubya" wrote in message news On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:18:28 -0600, "pigo" wrote: What kind of car are you getting? Good snow tires and moderation of speed should do you just fine. If you know a place in SLC that rents cars with good snow tires, please advise. I'd really appreciate it. bw Like a FWD sedan but with better than normal tires, type of thing? I know there are lot's of Montero's and Sub. Wagons and the like. Those aren't FWD. But what I mean is a normal lightweight front-driver with dedicated winter tires (usually with the snowflake-on-the-mountain logo), as opposed to M+S tires. 4WD/AWD is nice, but costs a lot more, doesn't help much with cornering, and not at all with stopping; winter tires help with all three. I've looked, but never found, a company that rents cars with such tires, but I'd sure like to. bw |
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uglymoney wrote:
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:29:56 -0700, lal_truckee wrote: Lucky wrote: "Richard Henry" wrote in message news:iikfd.18516 I carry a box with the wrong size chains in them in the back of my Jeep, just so I'll have some to show. I figure if the road is so bad I need to put chains on over the 4WD, I'm going back home instead. Heh Heh. well you can stop pretending to be a powder skier then. Going home was one of my best decisions ever. Early the morning of March 31, 1982 I was trying to force my way up the Alpine Meadows access road, backing up repeatedly and ramming my way through drift after drift; when the road became completely impassible I considered snowshoeing the last few miles - had the shoes and pack and proper clothing; but I decided to turn back. I went home. Going home was one of my best decisions ever. http://www.avalanche.org/~moonstone/...he%20Story.htm Scary. Whatever became of Anna? I think she's in Mammoth Update: http://www.mammothadaptivesportsfoundation.org/article_2003_anna_allen_story.html |
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uglymoney wrote:
There is no doubt that chains are far superior in all ways when installed. Chains will actually last and not break and give incredible traction. Yes, but I actually broke one. The piece going across the tread broke near Snow Valley's parking lot, so I figured what the hell. I ended up leaving early and getting my money back. Rotten place but acceptable customer service when they're confronted with a screaming customer. In the chains' defense, I DID buy them used and got at least half a dozen trips of ~40 miles each out of them. -- Cheers, Bev ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Screw the end users. If they want good software, let them write it themselves." -- Anon. |
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