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Hi,
I find that I'm out of breath too quickly, especially when I'm skate- rollerskiing with poles. With no poles, it is a little easier since I'm only doing half the work. I know it must be at least in part due to lack of balance - changing feet more frequently, and poling accordingly. Apart from this, is there a general breathing technique? Thanks! |
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do the breathing problems happen only with rollers, or with any sport?
How fit are you generally (e.g. resting HR?) |
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Back when I jogged (before discovering roller skiing), I generally
fared better in terms of endurance, although I never really exerted myself too much. I also do some strength training (sit-ups, push-ups, pull-ups) a couple of times a week. My resting heart rate is about 60-65 per min. I think what's different with skiing is that the upper body is much more actively involved, even at lower speed. When running, I generally stay with breathing in and out on 4 steps, or 3 steps when accelerating. When skiing, I try to exhale when I pole to maximize the push-off. By definition, my breathing cycle accelerates. |
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I recall having some trouble getting "out of breath" rollerskiing V2
initially until I found a breathing cadence that worked. I ended up having to do an "odd" sequence where the exhale did not always occur during the same power stroke. Actually, "odd" breathing sequences seem to work better for me for all strokes because they keep me from favoring one side or the other. -Jim |
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On Jun 20, 8:53 am, Larry wrote:
Back when I jogged (before discovering roller skiing), I generally fared better in terms of endurance, although I never really exerted myself too much. I also do some strength training (sit-ups, push-ups, pull-ups) a couple of times a week. My resting heart rate is about 60-65 per min. I think what's different with skiing is that the upper body is much more actively involved, even at lower speed. When running, I generally stay with breathing in and out on 4 steps, or 3 steps when accelerating. When skiing, I try to exhale when I pole to maximize the push-off. By definition, my breathing cycle accelerates. A major part of it is that you are now using both arms and legs to propel yourself. The more muscles involved the more oxygen is required. But I'm betting an even bigger reason for a reasonably fit person is that you just can't relax on rollerskis and possibly technique inefficiencies. You didn't say how accomplished a skater you are but When I first began I couldn't skate for more than 100 yds with dying of exhaustion. After a few months of practice and lessons I could ski 10k non-stop with no improvement in fitness. Muscle tension is a great waster of energy. You need to relax and have efficient technique. I see this with a lot of my students in the instructional club I run. They can not relax enough and their balance is not good enough to allow them to use the aerobic fitness they have. Work on balance and relaxation. That is harder on rollerskis than on snow however |
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I find skiing much easier than running. For me the intensity increases
in the following order : run - ski - bike. I don't think there is a particlar breathing technique that is skiing- specific. You may feel better as you get better at it. Plus, there can be hyperventilation due to being nervious about falling. If you are really worried you may get checked for asthma and for heart issues. Speaking of asthma, breathing through the nose to minimise allgen exposure of the lungs is imporant. Nordic skiers have the highest percentage of asthma among all sports. |
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schreef in bericht oups.com... Nordic skiers have the highest percentage of asthma among all sports. No kidding? I didn't know that. Does it have to do with location? More asthma where winters actually exist? I started looking at Nordic skiing more seriously *because* of an asthma condition that pretty much seemed to rule out sport for June through October. This week, after week, I tried my usual lunch run again, and the asthma just prevented me running at my usual (record) pace. I ended up resting and walking quite a bit. Racing my bike to work when I'm already late is less of a problem, easier to take a small step back. Also, I don't reach critical VO2 intake as easily on the bike. I ordered a Powerbreath machine, which should help some. |
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On Jun 23, 1:48 am, "Jan Gerrit Klok"
wrote: schreef in ooglegroups.com... Nordic skiers have the highest percentage of asthma among all sports. No kidding? I didn't know that. Does it have to do with location? More asthma where winters actually exist? Do a search in Google Scholar for "asthma elite cross country skiers". I have most papers in .pdf since I have an institutional subscrption. email me privately if you need the information. Asthma is a complex condition, and one can not answer "why" easily. THe most common answer - breathing cold dry air at high intensity through the mouth bypasses the nasal cavity where the air is supposed to be warmed up and humdified, and this unconditioned air penetrates all the way to small airways. Often times asthma goes undiagnosed, since it does not necessarily cause airway constriction, but the inflammation in the lungs is present. Then you need a trigger (like a cold or a hard race) when airway constiction develops. I can go on and on. |
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" wrote:
Do a search in Google Scholar for "asthma elite cross country skiers". Interesting look up. One small study concluded that, "that dietary fish oil supplementation has a markedly protective effect in suppressing EIB in elite athletes, and this may be attributed to their antiinflammatory properties." EIB = exercise-induced bronchoconstriction. Another that there is a marked difference in reaction in asthma test results between coastal climates and more inland dry ones (higher) in x-c skiers. Alaskan sled dogs don't escape the problem, either. But it's not just cold, since swimmers also have a high prevalence of asthma. However, in general high level training is thought to contribute to the development of airway hyperresponsiveness and symptomatic asthma, which is apparently why asthma is being increasingly claimed by athletes across all elite sports. There must be a continuum on this, since endurance exercise, such as marathon running (milder climate), seems to similarly affect non-asthmatics of all ages. Then there's another, perhaps more significant breathing problem, the whole subject of Exercise-induced arterial hypoxemia (EIAH) - lack of oxygen in the blood at high efforts - which affects many fit athletes of all ages in ways that are not understood. A short scientific summary article, "Is the healthy respiratory system (always) built for exercise?", is at http://jap.physiology.org/cgi/conten...e2=tf_ipsecsha (fifth article down). A popular version and suggestion for dealing with EIAH in training is at http://www.runnersweb.com/running/rw..._RRN_EIAH.html. rm |
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