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Are their any "Snowboard Only - No Skis" Resorts out there yet ?
Haven't found any yet. When ?
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L H wrote:
Haven't found any yet. When ? Why? |
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Haven't found any yet. When ?
I'm going to resist the urge to consider this a troll post, because in the USA there are resorts that do not allow snowboarding - to the best of my knowledge the current list is: Alta, Deer Valley, Taos, Mad River Glen. This list has shrunk somewhat over the past 10 years. So one reaction by snowboarders might be to start a snowboard-only resort. What's your ideal "snowboard-only" resort like? Is it like a normal ski resort, only no skiers allowed? Or is the whole thing one big terrain park? What about alpine snowboarders (using hard boots), monoskis, and split-boards - would they be allowed at your "no-ski" resort? I would rather not see such a thing. First, the rift between skiers and snowboarders has been closing in many areas over the years and I for one am happy about that. Snowboarders and skiers are getting long better. Pushing for a snowboard-only resort would probably renew some of the tension, and I have no wish to see that. What about families with young kids who are big enough to ski but not to snowboard? Do you want to alienate them? Before you answer, realize that people who have been snowboarding since they were pre-teens are in many cases having kids of their own these days. For young-uns that start early, the road to becoming a snowboarder often starts on skis. Finally, I find it hard to believe that a resort could get started without allowing pretty much anyone who wants to come. The four places I mentioned above have an established clientele and are well established financially so they get away with turning away snowboarders. I have a hard time imagining a well -established resort turning away it's skiing customers. Mike T |
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It would be reverse dip****-itis. Mountains are big places; plenty of
room for everyone. Personally, I'd like to see a resort where preening snow bunnies, aristocratic elitist wieners, & folks that stop in the middle of the hill to talk were banned. |
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Personally, I'd like to see a resort where preening snow bunnies,
aristocratic elitist wieners, & folks that stop in the middle of the hill to talk were banned. The key is to get out on non-holiday weekdays... most resorts are remarkably lacking in all of the above on such days! For example, Mt Hood Meadows, OR is a completely different place on weekends and weekdays. I only wish I could ride more during the week this season, cause during a low snow year the weekends are particularly awful! Mike T |
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"Mike T" wrote in news:AduSd.4513$QQ3.1845
@trnddc02: knowledge the current list is: Alta, Deer Valley, Taos, Mad River Glen. This list has shrunk somewhat over the past 10 years. MRG of the 4 at least has some excuse - natural snow and trails in VT. That might mean 100" or 300" in a season. Ice included at no extra charge What's your ideal "snowboard-only" resort like? Is it like a normal ski resort, only no skiers allowed? Or is the whole thing Its funny as this is something I've joked about with friends for awhile now.. 'when I win the lottery....' Don't want to start a flame fest about skiiers, but I honestly wouldn't care if any were offended by the creation of a boarding only resort. It would make many a day out more enjoyable - just personal opinion, YMMV. As for what I'd like to see - not a whole lot different, just a lot less bumps I'm not saying I'd eliminate them as on some runs some degree of bumps are necessary to keep the snow. So there will be one or two very happy "ski" patrollers. This way we would finally have an answer to that age old question 'do boarders *really* push all the snow to the bottom of the mountain'. And if the snow is generally soft, a few bumped runs just for a change up, maybe more in the late season when even beginners can go in without worrying about killing themselves on ice boulders. I don't think I would cut any trails differently - its not the trails its the quality of the snow and I just think in most cases skiiers trash things a lot quicker then boarders. And sure there would be the requiste park/pipes, but that would be no more than 10-15% of the ridable area. Tools w/ bench off every lift set up like a bus stop shelter. Like who wants to be *ing around with bindings in blowing snow and your hands going numb 10 secs after you start? Attention to exit ramps/landings from lifts. Do what needs to be done to eliminate that 20 feet of ice crud and eliminate a lot of beginner wipeouts. Must be those bad memories of trying to skate off on a board instead of in a pair of CCM's! Need a survey on this one, but I'd rip off all those foot(ski) rests on chairs. Always in the way on a quad with 4 boards. I don't know.. I think any other things I would do aren't specific to just boarders. ps - no, I don't hate all skiiers. |
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Mike M. Miskulin wrote:
As for what I'd like to see - not a whole lot different, just a lot less bumps I'm not saying I'd eliminate them as on some runs some degree of bumps are necessary to keep the snow. So there will be one or two very happy "ski" patrollers. This way we would finally have an answer to that age old question 'do boarders *really* push all the snow to the bottom of the mountain'. You honestly think snowboarders wouldn't create bumps? I don't think I would cut any trails differently - its not the trails its the quality of the snow and I just think in most cases skiiers trash things a lot quicker then boarders. You're a funny guy. If I ruled the world, all side-slipping boarduroy makers would be relegated to the bunny hill. Neil |
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I am going to bite on this one, only because there once was.....
In Ontario, there was a place that opened called the Ranch, which was a small, snowboard only hill. It was mainly just a park, a couple of brutal jumps, etc. At first it only allowed snowboarders, then they started to allow skiiers, mini-skis, etc. Then it shriveled up and died, mainly becuase that area doesn't really get snow. So, indeed, there has been a snowboard only resort (resort used lightly in this case) Glenn |
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todd wrote:
...that said, i've definitely shouted at snowboarders from the lift "point it down the hill! ...try turning! ...board across instead of scraping and leave some snow for the rest of us!..." Well the temptation has certainly been there... but they wouldn't have a clue what you're yelling about. Some of them would even claim to be "carving". Many of them will be proudly bragging that they rode a "black diamond" run that day. Neil |
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