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The Canyons Avalanche Photos
I'm guessing most have heard about this avalanche just outside of The
Canyons resort in Park City, Utah last Friday. There are some informative photos here, if you're interested; http://tinyurl.com/4ge9e Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and possibly even hiked up to the gate is all to familiar with the slide area shown. Pretty sobering and a good reminder to check the avalanche forecast before even considering backcountry riding. The Dutch Draw area is a big lure for inbound skiers/riders because it is so easily accessable from a lift and you board right back in-bounds and hop back on the lift. On the day of the slide there were many people out of bounds as evidenced by the multiple tracks on the ridge. These boarders, like others, probably figured the run was safe based on the amount of tracks already on slope. ...which it obviously wasn't, by the subsequent slide and the stern warnings and other avalanches in Utah this year. Ride safe, folks. |
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todd wrote:
I'm guessing most have heard about this avalanche just outside of The Canyons resort in Park City, Utah last Friday. There are some informative photos here, if you're interested; http://tinyurl.com/4ge9e Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and possibly even hiked up to the gate is all to familiar with the slide area shown. Pretty sobering and a good reminder to check the avalanche forecast before even considering backcountry riding. The Dutch Draw area is a big lure for inbound skiers/riders because it is so easily accessable from a lift and you board right back in-bounds and hop back on the lift. On the day of the slide there were many people out of bounds as evidenced by the multiple tracks on the ridge. These boarders, like others, probably figured the run was safe based on the amount of tracks already on slope. ...which it obviously wasn't, by the subsequent slide and the stern warnings and other avalanches in Utah this year. Ride safe, folks. I feel bad for the boarder, but it also shows that they were probably not too familiar with avalanche safety. Also it shows the dedication and knowledge for safety that pros have when they film in the back country. Bless him and hope he's off to a better place where the pow is always safe. |
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"todd" wrote in news:1106166189.918664.201760
@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: Anyone who has been to The Canyons, ridden the 9990 lift, and possibly Pretty much what me and a friend guessed when we heard last week. What is not clear to me is whether any of these guys had proper equipment with them? Not that its any guarantee as seen in Idaho. Both of them had beacons but the third was unable to locate them. After C. Kelly died I made a donation to the Canadian Avalanche group and they sent out a book as well. After reading that no way would I go near out of bounds without a proper course first and beacon, etc. |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:04:23 GMT, "Mike M. Miskulin"
allegedly wrote: After C. Kelly died I made a donation to the Canadian Avalanche group and they sent out a book as well. After reading that no way would I go near out of bounds without a proper course first and beacon, etc. Indeed. A course is essential as you get to learn from an expert and it helps consolidate information that you read, hear etc. There's nothing like digging your own snow pit and learning from what's really there, especially with an expert to help out. After that, it's a case of building up experience by going out with people that know better. Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the experts can be caught out. Which book did you get? - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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On 20 Jan 2005 09:04:06 GMT, Switters wrote:
Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the experts can be caught out. Actually, it's worse than that. The stats seem to show that the more experience you have, the *more* likely you are to get avalanched. -- Champ |
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Champ wrote:
On 20 Jan 2005 09:04:06 GMT, Switters wrote: Of course, as Kelly and his group demonstrated so graphically, even the experts can be caught out. Actually, it's worse than that. The stats seem to show that the more experience you have, the *more* likely you are to get avalanched. Well the more experience you have, it also means the more incidences you are exposed to acalanche situations. Experts will more likely venture out of bounds, therefore the "risk" of getting caught in an avalanche is much higher than non-experts who might try backcountry only here and there. |
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FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy
out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk. In Douglas County, NV on NV-CA border.........YOU WILL BE SENT TO PRISON, FINED A FEW BUCKS and billed for ALL related search expenses associateed with personnel, helicopters, gas and oil, search dogs and equipment.........but, again... ... only if caught out-of-bounds ! Law bcomes activated Thus 1/20/05 in NV. Kind regards, LH 1/20/05 Read MSNBC News on 1/15/05 below. With any luck similar laws for many Western States will be in effect in 2005-6. The NV State Law text has already been mailed, 1/17, to both the Governors' and Atty-Gen'ls of appropriate States. URL BELOW: MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/ |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:18:47 GMT, (L H) allegedly wrote:
FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk. Why is that good news? Or are you just trolling? - Dave. -- The only powder to get high on, falls from the sky. http://www.vpas.org/ - Snowboarding the worlds pow pow - Securing your e-mail The Snowboard FAQ lives here - http://rssFAQ.org/ |
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"L H" wrote in message ... FYI: Good news this week to the skiers/boarders who enjoy out-of-bounds adventures that put rescue teams at risk. In Douglas County, NV on NV-CA border.........YOU WILL BE SENT TO PRISON, FINED A FEW BUCKS and billed for ALL related search expenses associateed with personnel, helicopters, gas and oil, search dogs and equipment.........but, again... ... only if caught out-of-bounds ! Law bcomes activated Thus 1/20/05 in NV. Kind regards, LH 1/20/05 Read MSNBC News on 1/15/05 below. With any luck similar laws for many Western States will be in effect in 2005-6. The NV State Law text has already been mailed, 1/17, to both the Governors' and Atty-Gen'ls of appropriate States. URL BELOW: MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/ Does this mean they have outlawed backcountry skiing? Sounds a little extreme to me. Could be great news for the ski areas though. Bob |
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Bob wrote: "L H" wrote in message MSNBC - Out-of-bounds skiing against the law in Douglas County Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6826245/ Does this mean they have outlawed backcountry skiing? Sounds a little extreme to me. Could be great news for the ski areas though. Bob There is no information on the text of the law in the article and the media is notoriously incompetent interepreting such issues, but if the neighboring land in is Federal public land (as is usually the case), local or state governments have no authority to regulate which uses are and are not acceptable (mountianeering, snowshoing O.K. but skiiing, snowboarding not O.K. --all these have significnt avalache risk). If that is what the law actually is doing, it is unenforcable as Federal BLM, USFS, and PS regulations supercede it. Even the Feds may not be able to impose such a restiction as the courts might interpret such a rule as arbitrary. An attempt of that sort was made at Crystal Mtn. in WA. The Forest Service quickly backed down when a couple local groups threatened court action. The Park Service is holding on with a regulatory dodge that probably will not hold up. In any event no Fed action can be taken without an impact statement, a record of decision and public hearings. |
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