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Old February 26th 08, 04:52 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,uk.rec.motorcycles
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In communiqué , Ace
cast forth these pearls of wisdom
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:43:13 -0800 (PST), in
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Even more likely, perhaps more stable in a straight line thus
encouraging higher speed?


*ding*

Or alternatively - allowing faster speeds with the skis flat on the
snow with less chance of catching an edge. Modern teaching techniques
would emphasise that you're _always_ on one edge or the other, such
that this wouldn't be an issue.


Logical. I did find the modern things very easy, and SWMBO even more so
given her knackered knees.

I learned in Sol (but no, my name isn't Kevin) where my instructor
didn't go in to such subtleties. He was brilliant at getting total
newbies up to stem turn standard in a week though. He took us in to some
really deep powder on our last day in what he reckoned were the best
conditions they had seen all season (March 1987).


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Old February 26th 08, 04:53 PM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,uk.rec.motorcycles
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:34:17 -0000, in
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Ace wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:35:05 -0000, in
, "MoonMan"
wrote:

Ace wrote:


Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster'
than newer ones?

This theory has always intrigued me too, especially as FIS
repeatedly make race ski minimum lengths longer and longer in an
attempt to slow competitors down for their safety.


To be fair, that's only true for Slalom races, where the shorter skis
allow much quicker turns, but at the expense of stability and control.


nope, length limits are even more strict in the faster disciplines as are
turn radii.


"More strict"? Not sure how that could be so - there are minimum
lengths for all categories, equally enforced.

There is no mimimum radius defined for Slalom, and the desire to move
to shorter skis was only really apparent there, as shown by the
minimum length requirement of 165cm for Men's Slalom, c/w 215cm for
men's downhill.

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Old February 27th 08, 09:46 AM posted to rec.skiing.resorts.europe,uk.rec.motorcycles
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Ace wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:34:17 -0000, in
, "MoonMan"
wrote:

Ace wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:35:05 -0000, in
, "MoonMan"
wrote:

Ace wrote:

Why would you think that the older, longer skis would be 'faster'
than newer ones?

This theory has always intrigued me too, especially as FIS
repeatedly make race ski minimum lengths longer and longer in an
attempt to slow competitors down for their safety.

To be fair, that's only true for Slalom races, where the shorter
skis allow much quicker turns, but at the expense of stability and
control.


nope, length limits are even more strict in the faster disciplines
as are turn radii.


"More strict"? Not sure how that could be so - there are minimum
lengths for all categories, equally enforced.

There is no mimimum radius defined for Slalom, and the desire to move
to shorter skis was only really apparent there, as shown by the
minimum length requirement of 165cm for Men's Slalom, c/w 215cm for
men's downhill.


Luckily for me the new regulations for skis have been downgraded to
"recommendations" for Masters, I was going to have to get new GS skis for
next year to comply with the new radius requirements.

I meant that there was more regulation for the faster disciplines and In the
few years I have been competeing - if you can call what I do competeing
Ski lengths / radii for GS have changed at least twice.


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