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The i explains why you don't get a problem at altitude. In winter an
additive is added (!) so that the diesel doesn't freeze but you'll notice that the performance isn't so good. It's really only older cars which get problems above 2,500m. -- Simon Brown www.hb9drv.ch "Ian Spare" wrote in message ... Abairsty wrote: Heard someone mentioning that diesel powered cars struggle at altitude, does anyone know if this is correct....seeing as im thinking of driving up to val Thorens? My girlfriend has a Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDIs which I drive round the Alpes with no problem at all, mostly that's summer use as I use my own 4wd in the winter. I've heard of temperature problems with the fuel but I *thought* that the modern mixes did not suffer from that problem. |
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Also cars are now overpowered, so even if you lose 25% of the car's
available power you'll probably not notice it. -- Simon Brown www.hb9drv.ch "Simon Brown" wrote in message ... The i explains why you don't get a problem at altitude. In winter an additive is added (!) so that the diesel doesn't freeze but you'll notice that the performance isn't so good. It's really only older cars which get problems above 2,500m. |
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:40:01 +0200, David Off
wrote: jph wrote: "Adrian D. Shaw" a écrit dans le message de news: ... I'm not sure that age matterst hat much either. A few years ago, driving over the Passo dello Stelvio/Stilfserjoch (the highest ordinary road pass in Europe at 2748 metres) Maybe I'm fussy, but isn't it the Iseran a few meters higher ? Dunno but the Col de la Bonette in the southern alps is 2802meters. Indeed it is, with a little loop at the top that goes another 40m higher. Did it on the bike in August with some mates. One of them did suffer with fuelling a bit, but that was due to the flatslides on his ZX7RR being badly set up - you could smell the excess petrol at sea level and it was a lot worse high up with the less dense air leading to an even richer mixture. Made it over OK, but it wouldn't pull properly below about 6k rpm. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd
Ace : Indeed it is, with a little loop at the top that goes another 40m higher. Did it on the bike in August with some mates. I actually googled this before I posted; Bonnette is from what I can tell lower than Stelvio except taht a spur goes off to a higher point. The real "pass" is not higher. At least that's what I read on some web site! Adrian -- Adrian Shaw ais@ Adran Cyfrifiadureg, Prifysgol Cymru, aber. Aberystwyth, Ceredigion, Cymru ac. http://users.aber.ac.uk/ais uk |
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On 13 Oct 2004 18:40:22 +0100, (Adrian D. Shaw) wrote:
Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd Ace : Indeed it is, with a little loop at the top that goes another 40m higher. Did it on the bike in August with some mates. I actually googled this before I posted; Bonnette is from what I can tell lower than Stelvio except taht a spur goes off to a higher point. The real "pass" is not higher. The col, or pass, itself is 2802m, so still higher than the posted figure for t'other ones. The spur goes up ~50m higher, IIRC. At least that's what I read on some web site! Ah, well it must be true then. -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 14:04:37 +0200, Ace wrote:
On 13 Oct 2004 18:40:22 +0100, (Adrian D. Shaw) wrote: Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd Ace : Indeed it is, with a little loop at the top that goes another 40m higher. Did it on the bike in August with some mates. I actually googled this before I posted; Bonnette is from what I can tell lower than Stelvio except taht a spur goes off to a higher point. The real "pass" is not higher. The col, or pass, itself is 2802m, so still higher than the posted figure for t'other ones. The spur goes up ~50m higher, IIRC. Out of interest, a couple of piccies I took near the top of the pass. http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/IMG_0129.JPG http://compaqnet.ifrance.com/AceNet/IMG_0133a.JPG -- Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) Ski Club of Great Britain - http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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"Ace" wrote in message ... On 13 Oct 2004 18:40:22 +0100, (Adrian D. Shaw) wrote: Yn erthygl , sgrifennodd Ace : Indeed it is, with a little loop at the top that goes another 40m higher. Did it on the bike in August with some mates. I actually googled this before I posted; Bonnette is from what I can tell lower than Stelvio except taht a spur goes off to a higher point. The real "pass" is not higher. The col, or pass, itself is 2802m, so still higher than the posted figure for t'other ones. The spur goes up ~50m higher, IIRC. The loop (Cime de la Bonette) is the 2802m bit. The road pass (Col de la Bonette) is at 2715m. From the top of the loop. - Neil |
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Ace wrote in message . ..
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:40:01 +0200, David Off wrote: jph wrote: "Adrian D. Shaw" a écrit dans le message de news: ... I'm not sure that age matterst hat much either. A few years ago, driving over the Passo dello Stelvio/Stilfserjoch (the highest ordinary road pass in Europe at 2748 metres) snip One of them did suffer with fuelling a bit, but that was due to the flatslides on his ZX7RR being badly set up - you could smell the excess petrol at sea level and it was a lot worse high up with the less dense air leading to an even richer mixture. Made it over OK, but it wouldn't pull properly below about 6k rpm. My old 600 Bindat suffered the same problem. In retrospect it might have been carb icing rather than the bad carburation I attributed it to at the time. Nobody I was with had any problems. Dunno about Diesels, but some of them definitely smell as if somethings not right at altitude. Iain. |
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