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On Feb 9, 4:07*pm, jeff potter wrote:
I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings What's a good way to remove them? You've gotten a lot of good advice already. We have a more direct approach for the plastic cap at the tail end of the binding baseplate - take a very small straight-blade screwdriver and stand it straight up in the molded slot, rap sharply and drive the blade straight thru, then pry it up. You can reuse it, we throw it out and replace w/ a new one when the binding is remounted. The screws are # 3 Pozi-Drive, many shops sell the screwdrivers, many hardware stores also sell Vermont American bits for 1/4" magnetic bit holders which we chuck into battery operated drills and yes, we always adjust the clutch settings on them. One thing not mentioned is what happens to the holes left over in the ski. We always plug them w/ the proper sized plastic plug from an assortment we have. The hole is glued, plug tapped into the ski and lightly sanded flush w/ the topsheet. Of course, if the holes are re- used they are glued again before sending the screws home. - Bob |
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On Feb 9, 6:43*pm, ADK Skier wrote:
On Feb 9, 4:07*pm, jeff potter wrote: I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on them. Skate model. What's a good way to remove them? I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're not easily removed. I can keep trying. I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge somehow? How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the "bail" so that it can flip out of the way. Help? Links? Thanks, JP Jeff, I've removed tons of these bindings. It really doesn't take rocket science. Most of the time I can get my Swiss Army knife to remove the plug in the back. Hold it vertically and run it around the plug as you work it up. I have also used a real small drill bit and drilled a hole in it and they ride up the drill bit. The S cap in the front comes up really easy with the edge of my Swiss Army knife. Get the blade under it and pry up. Than I take my knife and work it from the back of the binding plate to the front. Be careful on this move with the knife. Just get the knife under the plate and work free the glue tape. Don't pry up but move the knife along. This works every time. Hard to beleive you've never taken one of these off after all the knowlege and experience you have. I've only installed one set of SNS Profil autos (for my wife). Never removed them. Used NNN otherwise for decades. I still haven't heard about how to get at the 2 side-screws. I can't even see them. ? They appear to be hidden under the pivoting metal shell cover---I don't see how to pivot it to expose the heads. |
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PS: Ah, ha. I dug into it. Here's what's really going on with this
binding type. The white "cap" over at the rear of the heel plate is NOT a cap at all. It's a one-use barbed-plug-rivet thingy. There is NO screw under it. So you do not really just pry it up. You pry at it but your efforts are pulling it out of THE SKI. It has a "barb" on the end to prevent you from doing this. So eventually this item BREAKS OFF, leaving its barb inside the ski. Terrible design, so it seems. How to reinstall the binding onto another ski? YOU CANNOT. You MUST acquire another undamaged white plug-rivet. Where? Who knows. Nonstandard item. I suppose a local shop might have some around. It might be outdated for all I know. These are somewhat older bindings. I can't imagine such a method lasting more than one design cycle. Ugh. Anyway, then you lift off the heel plate section-chunk and pull it to the rear and off of the front part of the binding and the side screws are exposed. Now we're back in familiar territory and I expect no further difficulties... --JP |
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PPS: I removed the other barbed-plug out without breaking it, but it's
a bit marred and "vexed". I'm not sure I'd want to re-use it (or resell it). They don't appear designed to be reusable. Oh well! --JP |
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On Feb 10, 7:53*am, jeff potter wrote:
PPS: I removed the other barbed-plug out without breaking it, but it's a bit marred and "vexed". I'm not sure I'd want to re-use it (or resell it). They don't appear designed to be reusable. Oh well! --JP Jeff, When I install SNS bindings, I through that stupid white plug away and put a regular screw instead. So even if the plug got damaged when you pull it out, just repace it with a regular screw. The newer pilot bindings abandended the plug design altogether (I wonder what the rationale for using the stupid plug was...) |
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On Monday, February 9, 2009 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-5, jeff potter wrote:
I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on them. Skate model. What's a good way to remove them? I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're not easily removed. I can keep trying. I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge somehow? How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the "bail" so that it can flip out of the way. Help? Links? Thanks, JP This is how I removed my Saloman Profil SNS Alpine cross country ski bindings. I popped off the rear (heel) plastic white cap (3/8" diameter) with a Swiss knife blade and removed the screw below it, I used a number 2 (red) Robertson bit (Canada). Slide the white plate to the rear and off exposing the next screw, remove it and slide off the 2nd white plate to the rear exposing 2 edge (side) screws. Remove them. Next the front (black plastic cap) needs to come off to expose the final screw that holds down the binding for the toe of the boot. Press all the way down on the square release button, hold it down while inserting a flat screwdriver between the black cap and the blue plastic that houses the orange rubber toe bumper. The blue cap should pop up and hinge toward the front of the ski exposing the last screw to be removed. |
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On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:32:29 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, February 9, 2009 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-5, jeff potter wrote: I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on them. Skate model. What's a good way to remove them? I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're not easily removed. I can keep trying. I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge somehow? How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the "bail" so that it can flip out of the way. Help? Links? Thanks, JP This is how I removed my Salomon Profil SNS Alpine cross country ski bindings. I popped off the rear (heel) plastic white cap (3/8" diameter) with a Swiss knife blade and removed the screw below it, I used a number 2 (red) Robertson bit (Canada). Slide the white plate to the rear and off exposing the next screw, remove it and slide off the 2nd white plate to the rear exposing 2 edge (side) screws. Remove them. Next the front (black plastic cap) needs to come off to expose the final screw that holds down the binding for the toe of the boot. Press all the way down on the square release button, hold it down while inserting a flat screwdriver between the black cap and the blue plastic that houses the orange rubber toe bumper. The blue cap should pop up and hinge toward the front of the ski exposing the last screw to be removed. On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:32:29 AM UTC-5, wrote: On Monday, February 9, 2009 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-5, jeff potter wrote: I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on them. Skate model. What's a good way to remove them? I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're not easily removed. I can keep trying. I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge somehow? How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the "bail" so that it can flip out of the way. Help? Links? Thanks, JP This is how I removed my Salomon Profil SNS Alpine cross country ski bindings. I popped off the rear (heel) plastic white cap (3/8" diameter) with a Swiss knife blade and removed the screw below it, I used a number 2 (red) Robertson bit (Canada). Slide the white plate to the rear and off exposing the next screw, remove it and slide off the 2nd white plate to the rear exposing 2 edge (side) screws. Remove them. Next the front (black plastic cap) needs to come off to expose the final screw that holds down the binding for the toe of the boot. Press all the way down on the square release button, hold it down while inserting a flat screwdriver between the black cap and the blue plastic that houses the orange rubber toe bumper. The blue cap should pop up and hinge toward the front of the ski exposing the last screw to be removed. |
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On Monday, February 9, 2009 at 4:07:01 PM UTC-5, jeff potter wrote:
I have a set of skis with the Salomon SNS Profil manual bindings on them. Skate model. What's a good way to remove them? I see what looks like a plug at the rear of the heel plate but they're not easily removed. I can keep trying. I've removed the rubber bumpers. The plastic "S" snap-cover in the front-center of the binding, over the front-center screw, doesn't seem to want to come off. Do I just work a screwdriver under the front edge somehow? How do I expose the 2 side-screws? I don't see how to release the "bail" so that it can flip out of the way. Help? Links? Thanks, JP This is how I removed my Salomon Profil SNS Alpine cross country ski bindings. I popped off the rear (heel) plastic white cap (3/8" diameter) with a Swiss knife blade and removed the screw below it, I used a number 2 (red) Robertson bit (Canada). Slide the white plate to the rear and off exposing the next screw, remove it and slide off the 2nd white plate to the rear exposing 2 edge (side) screws. Remove them. Next the front (black plastic cap) needs to come off to expose the final screw that holds down the binding for the toe of the boot. Press all the way down on the square release button, hold it down while inserting a flat screwdriver between the black cap and the blue plastic that houses the orange rubber toe bumper. The blue cap should pop up and hinge toward the front of the ski exposing the last screw to be removed. |
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