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I am very envious "Catek Freeride Pros" they look like they would be close to the perfect strap binding. To be honest though I have been more than happy with my SP4's they seem pretty responsive, or certainly were before my boots softened up. Is there anyway to re-enforce the boots so I can get some further use out of them? I was thinking more to use on my local dry slope so I can keep my new boots for snow alone, I would imagine that they will get scuffed up fairly quickly on such an abrasive surface. Really must get up in the attic to fish out and dispose my other 2 old pair of boots...some crippling Vans and some AirWalk Half Pipe boots from around 1994....they offer practically no support at all. "Andy Sandford" wrote in message ... Hi I've had my Malamutes for a while now and absolutely love them. VERY supportive, but they have packed out a bit. The internal strap mitigates this a bit though and helps a lot with the dreaded heel lift... I'll definitely get another pair. I'm 6'1" and about 200lbs. FYI, I ride a Donek Wide 161 with Catek Freeride Pros - hoping to get a 165 for next year. Fantastic boards for carving on piste (and powder 'cos of the width). Not so nimble in the trees though, as Lonerider pointed out. To get the best out of the boots, you'll need a pretty stiff binding - I previously had a pair of Drake Matrix, but they felt really "soft" with the Malamutes/Donek combo. The bindings would flex without influencing the board at all. Great softboot setup for carving, but not so hot if you like the park... Cheers Andy "chiliblue" wrote in message ... Heh not just similar but exactly the same, orange and black. You were spot on on the over tightening the laces too...I would be on my back tugging for all I am worth this year. Having 3 strap bindings also crossed my mind too...yay I can blame my weak carving this season to my boots. OK I think a new pair of boots are in order, I'll stick with Salomon as they have been very good but I might go upscale and try the Synapse or Malamute. The Malamute seems to be ultra stiff . Does anyone have any opinions on them ( I am going to get my first pair of hards and plates this year too) but I like a pretty stiff boot. "lonerider" wrote in message ups.com... chiliblue wrote: Sorry to ambush the thread but this is all very interesting, I use Salomon Dialogue boots and Saloman SP4 bindings on my Incline 160. I used to live about an hour from my local east coast slope so I used to get in around 20-30 days a season factoring in a 7 to 10 day out west trip. I got my boots in Whistler around 4 seasons ago. I moved from to the UK last year so I haven't been able to hit the slopes that much this year only 9 or so days in the Alps. Hey, you have a very similar setup to what I had a few years ago... I had 2001 Salomon Dialogues (orange/black) with SP4 Shaped bindings. This season I felt that I was struggling to get the board nicely up on its edge. I kept thinking "if only the ankle strp on the bindings was mounted higher up on the binding it would stop this disconnect between the boot and the board" ,partly I put alot of this down to not being able to get out riding as much as I am used to and the fact that the conditions were close to sheet ice. Do you think I have just finally flexed my boots one time too many? IS it the boots shell or the liner that is too soft now (or a bit of both)? Would it be worth tracking down a new liner for an old boot? What you describe I think is exactly what happens when a boot softens up too much. The ankle strap should really only be there to keep you boot attached to the binding, the power that allows you to get you toeside turn up on edge (unless you havea 3-strap binding) comes from the stiffness of the boot tongue. You should be able bend your knees and drive your shins into the front of the boot, the stiffness of the boot should keep it from flexing much farther then an angled 'L' or "/_" after that all the energy from your shins should tilt the boot over like so it '', then the bindings are attached to the boot snugly and that will transfer into the board. If your boots are worn out, when you drive you knees/shins forward, the boots just flex a lot and you don't get much energy transfer to the board via the bindings. Did that make sense? It is the boot shell that is now too soft if you are having toeside with your toeside. The Salomon liners also have a tendency to pack out (so the inside of the boot is 1/2 to a full size large)... which will lead heellift and cause you to tighten you laces a lot more and likely overtighten your ankle strap more in an effort to lockdown your ankle/heel. Finally if I had to replace the boots now, are the current Salomon boots simlar enough so I can use my custom foot beds out of my old Dialogues in the new boots? I think the Salomon boots are relatively similar in terms of length vs width... but you really should just bring your footbeds with you to a store, look at the boot, pull out the stock footbed, compare its profile with yours, and then finally just stick in your own footbed into the boot when trying it on. Since Salomon is a European brand I don't for see you having to order online for it. Hope that helps |
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Is there anyway to re-enforce the boots so I can get some further use out
of them? I was thinking more to use on my local dry slope so I can keep my new boots for snow alone, I would imagine that they will get scuffed up fairly quickly on such an abrasive surface. Use a Booster Strap. This will change the feel of the upper, and give it a stiffer feel with more rebound. It's designed for ski boots and hard snowboard boots but works on soft boots too. www.skimetrix.com Go for the "standard" model for soft boots. Mike T |
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chiliblue wrote:
I am very envious "Catek Freeride Pros" they look like they would be close to the perfect strap binding. To be honest though I have been more than happy with my SP4's they seem pretty responsive, or certainly were before my boots softened up. I've ridden both... the Freeride Pros are just about the most responsive binding in existence... very very solid and powerful. However I feel that the SP4s were still very responsive and a great binding over all (perhaps a little more versatile than the Cateks). I found the Cateks a tad heavy (even compared to the sturdy SP4s). They are also very lively... meaning you get a good feel for the snow under your feet, the flipside is that they aren't damp so you feel *everything* under your feet, the ruts and bumps tend to be transmitted with solid all metal plate into your legs... which can be tiring after a few hours (it isn't horrible, just noticeable). Is there anyway to re-enforce the boots so I can get some further use out of them? I was thinking more to use on my local dry slope so I can keep my new boots for snow alone, I would imagine that they will get scuffed up fairly quickly on such an abrasive surface. As Mike mentioned there is the booster strap (www.bomberonline.com/store). I have read people using like a plastic shim, but they have to fit the flex of your boot perfectly to work (some boots like the Deeluxe Sparks or ThirtyTwo TeamTwo and I think a Burton model, come with adjustable/replacable inserts). However, you've gotten a 100 days out of the boots, I think it's time to put them out to the pasture personally. |
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Ok, what do you think about these options:
Rides LX: $90 Salomon SP4: $139 Salomon SPX5: $179 As you may remember I have Salomon boots. I can get the Rides locally, and the others will be mailorder. I think the solomon bindings might fit better, but is that worth the price do you think? I need to make a choice pretty soon so if you read this and have opinions please let me know! thanks, --Matt |
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oops! that should be SPX4 not SP4.
thanks, --Matt |
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Bleh, Now I am stuck buying on-line after the folks failed to hold the
bindings for me, and I one to name names so be wary of Any Mountain in San Jose Ca. Now back to my dielemma, I have a new list: Salomon SPX4: $139 Salomon SPX5: $179 Salomon SPX7: $199 Ride EX: $145 Is there anything else I should be looking at? Are the SPX more or less equivelent to the SP series from before? Given that I have ordered a Donek Phoenix, and I have those low-end salomon boots, but that I will most likely try to upgrade to a stiffer pair of boots next season, but that is the only upgrade I want to have to make next year. Mainly, I want a pair of bindings that will play nicely with the Phoenix and Salomon boots so I won't have to think about upgrading them for a couple seasons. thanks again, --Matt |
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Matt wrote: Bleh, Now I am stuck buying on-line after the folks failed to hold the bindings for me, and I one to name names so be wary of Any Mountain in San Jose Ca. Oh you are in the Bay Area. Yea any mountain isn't so good... you could try Tri City in Fremont, they might have some stuff left (everything is halfoff). SFOSnow.com (Shrader St in Haight in SF) has some good stuff too, but also in very limit quantities so call ahead. Now back to my dielemma, I have a new list: Salomon SPX4: $139 Salomon SPX5: $179 Salomon SPX7: $199 Ride EX: $145 Is there anything else I should be looking at? Are the SPX more or less equivelent to the SP series from before? Given that I have ordered a Donek Phoenix, and I have those low-end salomon boots, but that I will most likely try to upgrade to a stiffer pair of boots next season, but that is the only upgrade I want to have to make next year. Mainly, I want a pair of bindings that will play nicely with the Phoenix and Salomon boots so I won't have to think about upgrading them for a couple seasons. The SPX series is equivalent (newer, stiffer) and will definitely fit your boots pretty well. The looks like you only are getting a 25% discount... you should be able to do better than that this late in the season. I think the SPX4 will be plenty for your needs, as you go up in price... the highback gets stiffer, the straps get thicker and more comfortable, and the rachets are smooth and better made... you can choose your own price point. The Ride bindings are good too (the EX models are nice) but I would strong suggest you try them out with your boots first. And congrats on the Phoenix... I just got myself one as well. --Arvin |
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Both of the above were more or less completely out of large sized
bindings, but I found the SPX7 for $139 which seemed like a reasonable price so I ordered them. I would like to thank everyone again with all the help, and I will let you know how well the combinations works out. --Matt |
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SPX7 at $139 is a awesome price at 50% off. I could count the number of
bindings that I would choose over it on a singlehand and most of that is just personal taste for bindings. Those are top notch bindings and they should last you for years to come. Enjoy! --Arvin Matt wrote: Both of the above were more or less completely out of large sized bindings, but I found the SPX7 for $139 which seemed like a reasonable price so I ordered them. I would like to thank everyone again with all the help, and I will let you know how well the combinations works out. --Matt |
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I wanted to see a picture of the SPX7's and googled them. This site popped
up with free shipping @ $139.95 if anyone else is looking at them. I don't know the site so I can't recommend it. I'm riding Flows and am really happy with them. Stan. "lonerider" wrote in message oups.com... SPX7 at $139 is a awesome price at 50% off. I could count the number of bindings that I would choose over it on a singlehand and most of that is just personal taste for bindings. Those are top notch bindings and they should last you for years to come. Enjoy! --Arvin Matt wrote: Both of the above were more or less completely out of large sized bindings, but I found the SPX7 for $139 which seemed like a reasonable price so I ordered them. I would like to thank everyone again with all the help, and I will let you know how well the combinations works out. --Matt |
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