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Have skis got longer again?
On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:25:52 -0000, "Paul S"
news_AT_ghweb_DOT_me_DOT_uk wrote: "Ace" wrote in message .. . My first skis, in ~1994, were 205s. Seems incredible, but there really was a general belief that longer was better, although very few people So rule of thumb when I learnt to ski was the type should reach your nose - what do you reckon it should be now - shoulder? There's no rule of thumb based on height, but on what sort of skier and skiing you are doing. A beginner should start with nothing longer thatn around 160cm, otherwise it's just making everything moer difficult for them. Hardcore freeride skiing would want something closer to 2m, unless you're particularly small, so some women's freeride skis do come as low as 180cm. Racers will use the shortest ski they can for Slalom (which had its rules changed to stop them getting too short) and something in the 190cm range for GS and Downhill. Again, not dependent on height like it used to be (thought to be). -- Ace Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/ All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members |
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Ace wrote: [snip] Aye, and that, of course, was why there were so many variations of tern involving lifting one or both skis to turn them off the snow, either by jumping or the famous "Stem Christiana" and its variants. Sadly some of these are still very much used by some people to this day. Don't knock the Stem Christi, it can be an excellent turn when touring off-piste, tired at the end of a long day, with a heavy rucksack, and on difficult snow and terrain conditions. Mike -- o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark \__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing, " || _`\,_ |__\ \ | caving, antibody engineer and ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user" http://www.antibody.me.uk/ |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:23:51 GMT, Mike Clark
wrote: In message Ace wrote: [snip] Aye, and that, of course, was why there were so many variations of tern involving lifting one or both skis to turn them off the snow, either by jumping or the famous "Stem Christiana" and its variants. Sadly some of these are still very much used by some people to this day. Don't knock the Stem Christi, it can be an excellent turn when touring off-piste, tired at the end of a long day, with a heavy rucksack, and on difficult snow and terrain conditions. OK, so the 'sadly still used' was clearly tongue-in-cheek, and I agree that there's a place for any technique that can work. I often stem the start of a turn in a narrow steep gully, for instance, when I can't be confident of what the snow's going to be like when I commit to it. Bit of a wuss-out though, and often gets your weight in the wrong place for the next turn, but still useful. Not so good in breakable conditions though, where you're often better doing something much more like what we teach nowadays as 'plough parallel'. Getting something of a plough shape before changing direction allows much of the force of the turning ski to be directed across the surface of the snow, rather than down through it, so reduces the risk of breaking through, then by rotating the inside ski around to match the outside one, rather than stepping it as in the Stem turn, you can keep the load more balanced between the two skis. -- Ace Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk/ All opinions expressed are those of the poster and in no way reflect those of the Ski Club or its members |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:07:42 +0100, Ace wrote:
I often stem the start of a turn in a narrow steep gully, That's *exactly* what I was told would be useful in narrow, steep gulleys, by a French ski instructor. I have to say that narrow, steep gullies are my personal bete-noire. -- Pip |
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On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 19:35:30 +0000, PipL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:07:42 +0100, Ace wrote: I often stem the start of a turn in a narrow steep gully, That's *exactly* what I was told would be useful in narrow, steep gulleys, by a French ski instructor. I have to say that narrow, steep gullies are my personal bete-noire. .... and it gets worse: I seem to have a dificulty in spelling the plural of 'gully'. See what I mean? -- Pip |
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Ace wrote:
I guess. But there you're talking about pre metal-edged ones, so 1920s and earlier, I'd have thought. And I know you may remember them, but I don't ;-) Oh, no. My first pair of Kneissls had metal edges. Screwed in every four inches or so. Had to wax them two or three times a day. -- Honda CB400 Four x2 Triumph Street Triple Ducati 800SS Yamaha 660 Tenere Suzuki GN250, TS250ER x2 So many bikes, so little garage space.... chateau dot murray at idnet dot com |
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On 13/12/2012 19:35, PipL wrote:
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:07:42 +0100, Ace wrote: I often stem the start of a turn in a narrow steep gully, That's *exactly* what I was told would be useful in narrow, steep gulleys, by a French ski instructor. I have to say that narrow, steep gullies are my personal bete-noire. Just anything narrow is a problem! One difficulty is that paths that are not to narrow in the morning get rucked up at the edges - making them much narrower. -- Michael Chare |
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