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Burton Vapor
I've noticed a lot of Burton Vapors being sold on ebay for just under half
their retail value? Where do these people get hold of the boards? I've rung up most stores and they are selling for around $930 - $950. Gareth |
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Burton Vapor
Gareth Evans wrote:
I've noticed a lot of Burton Vapors being sold on ebay for just under half their retail value? Where do these people get hold of the boards? I've rung up most stores and they are selling for around $930 - $950. Gareth Probably purchased them in bulk at the end of last season as retailers want to drop inventory and sell it at margin (that's my best guess). Burton Vapors might be an awesome board... but you have to notice they never actually post the weight of the board to back up their claims. I found one article in Transworld Snowboarding that mentions that a Burton Vapor 160 weigh 5.6 pounds. That's pretty light to be sure as most boards that length weigh over 6.5 lbs. However, my Tanker 04/05 172 weighs 6.1 lbs and the 06/07 Tankers (again nearly half a foot longer) weighs ~5.2 lbs at most. They cost nearly as much as the Vapor, but with none of the Burton hype (the diea that if it's from Burton and it's pricey, it must be good) - I would demo a Vapor before buying one, because I'm pretty you shouldn't trust anything you hear or say about the board until you actually try it yourself. |
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Burton Vapor
On Dec 4, 2:13 am, "lonerider" wrote:
Gareth Evans wrote: I've noticed a lot of Burton Vapors being sold on ebay for just under half their retail value? Where do these people get hold of the boards? I've rung up most stores and they are selling for around $930 - $950. GarethProbably purchased them in bulk at the end of last season as retailers want to drop inventory and sell it at margin (that's my best guess). Burton Vapors might be an awesome board... but you have to notice they never actually post the weight of the board to back up their claims. I found one article in Transworld Snowboarding that mentions that a Burton Vapor 160 weigh 5.6 pounds. That's pretty light to be sure as most boards that length weigh over 6.5 lbs. However, my Tanker 04/05 172 weighs 6.1 lbs and the 06/07 Tankers (again nearly half a foot longer) weighs ~5.2 lbs at most. They cost nearly as much as the Vapor, but with none of the Burton hype (the diea that if it's from Burton and it's pricey, it must be good) - I would demo a Vapor before buying one, because I'm pretty you shouldn't trust anything you hear or say about the board until you actually try it yourself. Thanks for the information. I'm going to look at some boards this weekend. The boards I'm most interested in are the Vapor, Custom X or Ride Timeless. I'm concerned about the strength of the Vapor and how much punishment a board like this can take? I heard that Burton don't warranty the use of rails if anything were to get damaged. Also, with the board being so light, will this make it choppy at high speeds? Gareth Gareth |
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Burton Vapor
Gareth Evans wrote:
Thanks for the information. I'm going to look at some boards this weekend. The boards I'm most interested in are the Vapor, Custom X or Ride Timeless. I'm concerned about the strength of the Vapor and how much punishment a board like this can take? I heard that Burton don't warranty the use of rails if anything were to get damaged. Also, with the board being so light, will this make it choppy at high speeds? Probably. Damp and light are difficult design goals to achieve simultaneously. Neil |
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Burton Vapor
Gareth Evans wrote:
Thanks for the information. I'm going to look at some boards this weekend. The boards I'm most interested in are the Vapor, Custom X or Ride Timeless. I'm concerned about the strength of the Vapor and how much punishment a board like this can take? I heard that Burton don't warranty the use of rails if anything were to get damaged. Also, with the board being so light, will this make it choppy at high speeds? Gareth No company officially warranties rail or rock damage (even NeverSummer, which has a 3 year warranty) the trick is convince them that it happened just riding on the slopes. All of Burton's gear is prone to breakage, but they are also very, very open to replacing their gear (have been known to honor the warranty if even you did damage you board on a rail). Of course you still have to ship the board to them and wait for a replacement. Traditionally lighter board are less stable at speed (all the extra cf/rubber dampening adds weight). I think you really should demo a board like the Vapor before deciding (I might just do that just to see what a $1000+ Burton board is like). The Ride Timeless is an excellent, solid board... go with that if these vague unknowns about Burton's highend stuff worries you. |
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Burton Vapor
All of Burton's gear is prone to breakage, but they are also very, very open to replacing their gear (have been known to honor the warranty if even you did damage you board on a rail). Of course you still have to ship the board to them and wait for a replacement. Get real dude! I've sold hundreds, really - hundreds, of Burton boards, boots & bindings. Other than newbies stepping on and, breaking the toe strap ladders, of Freestyle bindings of the 2005 vintage - I can count the failures on one foot. |
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Burton Vapor
56fish wrote:
All of Burton's gear is prone to breakage, but they are also very, very open to replacing their gear (have been known to honor the warranty if even you did damage you board on a rail). Of course you still have to ship the board to them and wait for a replacement. Get real dude! I've sold hundreds, really - hundreds, of Burton boards, boots & bindings. Other than newbies stepping on and, breaking the toe strap ladders, of Freestyle bindings of the 2005 vintage - I can count the failures on one foot. Be sure to count mine. Loved the Mission bindings, but experienced strap breakage (Super cold weather) and a missing flad. As posted earlier, Burton's warranty department is excellent and replaced the items quickly. |
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56fish wrote:
All of Burton's gear is prone to breakage, but they are also very, very open to replacing their gear (have been known to honor the warranty if even you did damage you board on a rail). Of course you still have to ship the board to them and wait for a replacement. Get real dude! I've sold hundreds, really - hundreds, of Burton boards, boots & bindings. Other than newbies stepping on and, breaking So what you are saying is that you are financially invested in making Burton look good JK Maybe you don't see many failures because many people contact Burton directly for replacements. the toe strap ladders, of Freestyle bindings of the 2005 vintage - I can count the failures on one foot. In the last decade, I've had or seen around a dozen breaks in Burton bindings and boards on the mountain. A bunch of us switched to Salomon because our sponsor shop offered a better deal on them... and we noticed that they tended to break less. Like I mentioned before, it's not really so much that Burton makes weak gear, but they do try to make lightweight gear... and when you make thinner/lighter heelcups, baseplates, and highbacks (all their product spiel mentions how they shave the weight of of their gear) and use ultra-light balsa wood in your board cores, you are going to have more of them break on you. |
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Burton Vapor
56fish wrote:
All of Burton's gear is prone to breakage, but they are also very, very open to replacing their gear (have been known to honor the warranty if even you did damage you board on a rail). Of course you still have to ship the board to them and wait for a replacement. Get real dude! I've sold hundreds, really - hundreds, of Burton boards, boots & bindings. Other than newbies stepping on and, breaking So what you are saying is that you are financially invested in making Burton look good JK Maybe you don't see many failures because many people contact Burton directly for replacements. the toe strap ladders, of Freestyle bindings of the 2005 vintage - I can count the failures on one foot. In the last decade, I've had or seen around a dozen breaks in Burton bindings and boards on the mountain. A bunch of us switched to Salomon because our sponsor shop offered a better deal on them... and we noticed that they tended to break less. Like I mentioned before, it's not really so much that Burton makes weak gear, but they do try to make lightweight gear... and when you make thinner/lighter heelcups, baseplates, and highbacks (all their product spiel mentions how they shave the weight of of their gear) and use ultra-light balsa wood in your board cores, you are going to have more of them break on you. |
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Burton Vapor
Gareth Evans wrote: I've noticed a lot of Burton Vapors being sold on ebay for just under half their retail value? Where do these people get hold of the boards? I've rung up most stores and they are selling for around $930 - $950. Gareth Had an ebay addict buddy of mine check the average prices of sold Vapors. $650-$750 average. Which is right around or, slightly above wholesale. Given the season so far across the US - folks are unloading some expensive inventory. |
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