"Climate changes melting tourism in Swiss Alps"

VtSkier wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:

bdubya wrote:

On 14 Mar 2006 05:06:54 GMT, l (Miko the pooch)
wrote:

In article ,
The Real Bev writes:

OK, smartass, will east and west switch too? Does it rotate or flip?


It doesn't matter because at the point where the polarity switches the
earth is going to spin backward. So the sun will still rise on the
east...



...over a really remarkable pile of wreckage from the 1000 MPH
whiplash*.



Nope, it'll all happen sans inertia - didn't you know Venus is due to
come whipping around again soon? I think she makes a pass by Jupiter
as well; I'll have to refer to my Velikovsky to be certain.


Do you suppose that when this happens we'll get a new drop
shipment of petroleum? I think it was Velikovsky who said
petroleum deposits came from outer space.

This would certainly fix our energy woes for a while and make
the Republicans a lot more re-electable.

I suppose you could always take a modified James Watt approach. You
can't be a literal millenialist as he was, but you could pick an
arbitrary Rapture date and use that as a justification for your,
"...what the hell, none of it matters anyway" policies.

Mary Malmros wrote:


VtSkier wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:

bdubya wrote:

On 14 Mar 2006 05:06:54 GMT, l (Miko the pooch)
wrote:

In article ,
The Real Bev writes:

OK, smartass, will east and west switch too? Does it rotate or flip?



It doesn't matter because at the point where the polarity switches the
earth is going to spin backward. So the sun will still rise on the
east...




...over a really remarkable pile of wreckage from the 1000 MPH
whiplash*.




Nope, it'll all happen sans inertia - didn't you know Venus is due to
come whipping around again soon? I think she makes a pass by Jupiter
as well; I'll have to refer to my Velikovsky to be certain.



Do you suppose that when this happens we'll get a new drop
shipment of petroleum? I think it was Velikovsky who said
petroleum deposits came from outer space.

This would certainly fix our energy woes for a while and make
the Republicans a lot more re-electable.


I suppose you could always take a modified James Watt approach. You
can't be a literal millenialist as he was, but you could pick an
arbitrary Rapture date and use that as a justification for your,
"...what the hell, none of it matters anyway" policies.

I have been, for a while, convinced that the current leadership
of the Republican party are, for the most part, VERY literal
millenialists. It scares the hell out of me. I'm pretty sure
there IS going to be a tomorrow and I'd like my grand-kids
to have a reasonable quality of life.

VtSkier wrote:

Mary Malmros wrote:



VtSkier wrote:

lal_truckee wrote:

bdubya wrote:

On 14 Mar 2006 05:06:54 GMT, l (Miko the pooch)
wrote:

In article ,
The Real Bev writes:

OK, smartass, will east and west switch too? Does it rotate or
flip?




It doesn't matter because at the point where the polarity switches
the
earth is going to spin backward. So the sun will still rise on the
east...





...over a really remarkable pile of wreckage from the 1000 MPH
whiplash*.





Nope, it'll all happen sans inertia - didn't you know Venus is due
to come whipping around again soon? I think she makes a pass by
Jupiter as well; I'll have to refer to my Velikovsky to be certain.




Do you suppose that when this happens we'll get a new drop
shipment of petroleum? I think it was Velikovsky who said
petroleum deposits came from outer space.

This would certainly fix our energy woes for a while and make
the Republicans a lot more re-electable.



I suppose you could always take a modified James Watt approach. You
can't be a literal millenialist as he was, but you could pick an
arbitrary Rapture date and use that as a justification for your,
"...what the hell, none of it matters anyway" policies.


I have been, for a while, convinced that the current leadership
of the Republican party are, for the most part, VERY literal
millenialists.

The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would mean
we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an eyeblink in
geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with their policies, which
seem determined to End It All within the next twenty years. Hence, the
arbitrary Rapture date, not falling on New Year's of a year ending in
three zeroes.

It scares the hell out of me. I'm pretty sure
there IS going to be a tomorrow and I'd like my grand-kids
to have a reasonable quality of life.

Same here.

"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
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The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would
mean we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an
eyeblink in geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with their
policies, which seem determined to End It All within the next
twenty years. Hence, the arbitrary Rapture date, not falling on
New Year's of a year ending in three zeroes.

While you're at it let's not forget who is fighting the wind powered
electrical generation project off of Hyannisport.

"VtSkier" wrote in message
...

The main reason for the eventual failure of the colony was
that the people were unable/unwilling to give up their
European lifestyle when the environment would no longer
support it. Yes, it did get colder as it did over the
entire norther hemisphere. The Inuit did and still do quite
well in spite of the cold.

And in fact are now suffering a great deal due to the warming now happening.

VtSkier wrote:

The main reason for the eventual failure of the colony was
that the people were unable/unwilling to give up their
European lifestyle when the environment would no longer
support it. Yes, it did get colder as it did over the
entire norther hemisphere. The Inuit did and still do quite
well in spite of the cold.

Yep. In particular, they apparently refused to eat fish, opting instead
to starve to death amidst one of the most fertile fishing areas in the
world.

You'll probably find this article interesting :
http://www.newyorker.com/critics/boo...0103crbo_books

an excerpt:

" Why did the Norse choose not to eat fish? Because they weren’t
thinking about their biological survival. They were thinking about
their cultural survival. Food taboos are one of the idiosyncrasies
that define a community. Not eating fish served the same function
as building lavish churches, and doggedly replicating the untenable
agricultural practices of their land of origin. It was part of what
it meant to be Norse, and if you are going to establish a community
in a harsh and forbidding environment all those little
idiosyncrasies which define and cement a culture are of paramount
importance."

Malcolm Gladwell reviewing Jared Diamond's "Collapse: How Societies
Choose to Fail or Succeed"

//Walt

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:22:13 -0700, "pigo"
wrote:


"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
news:gMURf.4254$Vb.2647@trndny02...


The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would
mean we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an
eyeblink in geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with their
policies, which seem determined to End It All within the next
twenty years. Hence, the arbitrary Rapture date, not falling on
New Year's of a year ending in three zeroes.

While you're at it let's not forget who is fighting the wind powered
electrical generation project off of Hyannisport.

Yes, dear. We all know it's usually the leeebruls' fault in the end.
Run along now.

bw

"bdubya" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:22:13 -0700, "pigo"

wrote:


"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
news:gMURf.4254$Vb.2647@trndny02...


The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would
mean we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an
eyeblink in geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with
their
policies, which seem determined to End It All within the next
twenty years. Hence, the arbitrary Rapture date, not falling on
New Year's of a year ending in three zeroes.

While you're at it let's not forget who is fighting the wind
powered
electrical generation project off of Hyannisport.

Yes, dear. We all know it's usually the leeebruls' fault in the
end.
Run along now.

I can make the case that the Republicans see the need to develop
energy resources of all kinds, a position that you can disagree with.
OTH, you "leebruls" jump up and down waving your arms and try to make
the point that you want some sort of utopian, free energy supply. And
then when one turns up off of your ocean front estate you fight it
because it "ruins your view".

bdubya wrote:

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:22:13 -0700, "pigo"
wrote:


"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
news:gMURf.4254$Vb.2647@trndny02...



The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would
mean we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an
eyeblink in geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with their
policies, which seem determined to End It All within the next
twenty years. Hence, the arbitrary Rapture date, not falling on
New Year's of a year ending in three zeroes.

While you're at it let's not forget who is fighting the wind powered
electrical generation project off of Hyannisport.


Yes, dear. We all know it's usually the leeebruls' fault in the end.
Run along now.

I don't know where pigo is doing his reading...well, I have an idea, but
never mind that...but I'm reading coverage that's a good bit more local.
Based on that, my impression is that the opposition is coming from
wealthy people (IOW, those who can't imagine themselves benefiting from
a wind farm) who don't want their view spoiled. IOW, they're privileged
NIMBYs, and nothing particularly new. If you want to try to generalize
that to a political affiliation, as I look at correlation between
political affiliation and wealth in this country, I'm seeing the money
on the right rather than on the left.

"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
news:cIYRf.4269$Vb.946@trndny02...


bdubya wrote:

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:22:13 -0700, "pigo"

wrote:


"Mary Malmros" wrote in message
news:gMURf.4254$Vb.2647@trndny02...



The way most (but not all) people read the calendar, that would
mean we'd still be around for a period of time that (while an
eyeblink in geological terms) doesn't seem to quite fit with
their policies, which seem determined to End It All within the
next twenty years. Hence, the arbitrary Rapture date, not
falling on New Year's of a year ending in three zeroes.

While you're at it let's not forget who is fighting the wind
powered electrical generation project off of Hyannisport.


Yes, dear. We all know it's usually the leeebruls' fault in the
end.
Run along now.

I don't know where pigo is doing his reading...well, I have an
idea, but never mind that...but I'm reading coverage that's a good
bit more local. Based on that, my impression is that the opposition
is coming from wealthy people (IOW, those who can't imagine
themselves benefiting from a wind farm) who don't want their view
spoiled. IOW, they're privileged NIMBYs, and nothing particularly
new. If you want to try to generalize that to a political
affiliation, as I look at correlation between political affiliation
and wealth in this country, I'm seeing the money on the right
rather than on the left.

"Wealthy people" as in the Kennedy's.