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Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?



 
 
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Old August 8th 03, 01:03 AM
Christopher Luke
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

I'm not sure which bindings to use.

I am finally trading in my old strait skis for some shaped skis. My
old skis were a set of 205 cm racing slalom Elans with Marker Race
bindings which I had set at 9 or 10 din setting.

I am looking to mount up my new Atomic Beta Race 9'16 Slalom Skis.
180cm

I weigh 175 pounds and an expert level aggressive skier.

I realize that the 4.12 Atomic bindings or the 6.14 will work just
fine. Price is not really an issue and being an "guy", I'd generally
just choose the bigger badder bindings. However, I am wondering if
the 6.12s will work just as well and possibly have the advantage of
being a bit lighter.

I like to have my dins set about in the middle of the range and
someone told me that the more modern bindings can be set a little
lower than you are used to and hold you in just as well.

Has anyone compared these two sets of bindings?
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Old August 8th 03, 01:18 AM
Jay Pique
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

On 7 Aug 2003 18:03:40 -0700, (Christopher Luke)
wrote:

I'm not sure which bindings to use.


Get Markers - it makes for a much more exciting day.

JP
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Old August 8th 03, 01:12 PM
Aaron Daniel
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

I'm not familiar with the Atomic binding line. It appears you keep your
equipment for a long time. In that case durability may be a factor for you.
If that is the case I suggest looking to the binding with more metal in the
housing and a higher available DIN setting. The point there is that your DIN
(like mine) is rather high and you may find that the binding will provide
consistent release over a longer period of time if your DIN setting is in
the lower half (or close) of the available adjustment range. Note higher
DINs and metal housings are more common in higher end, more expensive
bindings.

Aar

"Christopher Luke" wrote in message
om...
I'm not sure which bindings to use.

I am finally trading in my old strait skis for some shaped skis. My
old skis were a set of 205 cm racing slalom Elans with Marker Race
bindings which I had set at 9 or 10 din setting.

I am looking to mount up my new Atomic Beta Race 9'16 Slalom Skis.
180cm

I weigh 175 pounds and an expert level aggressive skier.

I realize that the 4.12 Atomic bindings or the 6.14 will work just
fine. Price is not really an issue and being an "guy", I'd generally
just choose the bigger badder bindings. However, I am wondering if
the 6.12s will work just as well and possibly have the advantage of
being a bit lighter.

I like to have my dins set about in the middle of the range and
someone told me that the more modern bindings can be set a little
lower than you are used to and hold you in just as well.

Has anyone compared these two sets of bindings?



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Old August 9th 03, 06:22 AM
Christopher Luke
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

I appreciate the feedback from all of you guys. Yup, I keep my
equipment for a long time and I'll likely go with the heavier 6.14
race bindings. The DIN goes from 6-14, so if I ski at 9 or 10, I
should be about in the middle. I will get them at cost, so the
difference will be about $20 - no big deal.

Conversely, I am thinking that with the shorter skis creating less
leverage to rip my ski off, I may start my dins at 8 and never have to
change them. In that case, the 4.14 bindings would have me in middle
of the din range. This binding might be more suited for my weight and
skiing style. 6 of one 1/2 dozen of the other. Can't decide...?
Bigger is generally badder.

As for Marker bindings, I'm afraid these new fandangle Atomic skis
have riser plates that only accept Atomic bindings. That would
normally **** me off, but I really don't mind. I am in equipment
worship mode and just want to ski the best of the best.

Happy Storms,
Christopher Luke
Lake Tahoe

"Aaron Daniel" wrote in message m...
I'm not familiar with the Atomic binding line. It appears you keep your
equipment for a long time. In that case durability may be a factor for you.
If that is the case I suggest looking to the binding with more metal in the
housing and a higher available DIN setting. The point there is that your DIN
(like mine) is rather high and you may find that the binding will provide
consistent release over a longer period of time if your DIN setting is in
the lower half (or close) of the available adjustment range. Note higher
DINs and metal housings are more common in higher end, more expensive
bindings.

Aar

"Christopher Luke" wrote in message
om...
I'm not sure which bindings to use.

I am finally trading in my old strait skis for some shaped skis. My
old skis were a set of 205 cm racing slalom Elans with Marker Race
bindings which I had set at 9 or 10 din setting.

I am looking to mount up my new Atomic Beta Race 9'16 Slalom Skis.
180cm

I weigh 175 pounds and an expert level aggressive skier.

I realize that the 4.12 Atomic bindings or the 6.14 will work just
fine. Price is not really an issue and being an "guy", I'd generally
just choose the bigger badder bindings. However, I am wondering if
the 6.12s will work just as well and possibly have the advantage of
being a bit lighter.

I like to have my dins set about in the middle of the range and
someone told me that the more modern bindings can be set a little
lower than you are used to and hold you in just as well.

Has anyone compared these two sets of bindings?

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Old August 10th 03, 01:23 AM
Aaron Daniel
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

I would tend to say that line of thinking is flawed. Due to their sidecut
modern skis actually tend have more edge length engaged in the turn at any
given time than traditional skis. Due to their radical sidecut and torsional
stiffness they also tend to exert more leverage.

However, I would tend to recommend that you ski the DIN setting indicated by
your age, weight, height, boot sole length and skier type per the chart
provided by the manufacturer of the bindings you purchase.

Aar

"Christopher Luke" wrote...
I am thinking that with the shorter skis creating less
leverage to rip my ski off, I may start my dins at 8 and never have to
change them.



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Old August 10th 03, 02:28 AM
Jay Pique
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:23:03 GMT, "Aaron Daniel"
wrote:

I would tend to say that line of thinking is flawed. Due to their sidecut
modern skis actually tend have more edge length engaged in the turn at any
given time than traditional skis. Due to their radical sidecut and torsional
stiffness they also tend to exert more leverage.

However, I would tend to recommend that you ski the DIN setting indicated by
your age, weight, height, boot sole length and skier type per the chart
provided by the manufacturer of the bindings you purchase.


If he's the skier he says he is, he'll probably want to adjust it to
his particular liking (higher, I'd say, than the charts indicate).

JP
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Old August 10th 03, 03:40 PM
Christopher Luke
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Default Atomic Ski Bindings - 4.12 or 6.14 which is better for me?

Thanks Aaron,
I'll take the manufacturer recommendation into consideration. At the
higher din settings, my skis have come off when necessary; never
causing strain to any joints. Pre-release has proven to be a much
more dangerous issue at lower settings. I'm sure you are correct
about the sidecut of the shaped skis giving me more leverage while
carving. I was thinking of leverage to rip my ski off while tumbling.
I'll try to find out today what the manufacturer will recommend. If
is not too low, I'll start there and can always udjust up before
tackling the steeps, if necessary. Afterall, at 37 I'm not gettting
any stronger or more flexible. I appreciate your feedback.
Chris

"Aaron Daniel" wrote in message om...
I would tend to say that line of thinking is flawed. Due to their sidecut
modern skis actually tend have more edge length engaged in the turn at any
given time than traditional skis. Due to their radical sidecut and torsional
stiffness they also tend to exert more leverage.

However, I would tend to recommend that you ski the DIN setting indicated by
your age, weight, height, boot sole length and skier type per the chart
provided by the manufacturer of the bindings you purchase.

Aar

"Christopher Luke" wrote...
I am thinking that with the shorter skis creating less
leverage to rip my ski off, I may start my dins at 8 and never have to
change them.

 




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