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Help a resort improve its terrain park
Hello, I'm a ski/snowboard instructor at a little resort in
California. Our terrain park is pretty lousy right now so a couple of the instructors are putting together a proposal for management on how to improve our park. What do you think should be included in a good novice/intermediate terrain park? Remember, this has to be a fairly mellow park for a family-oriented resort. We currently have a few toys: a 16ft rail, a kinked rail, a mail box, a fun box and a rainbow box. We are also looking for some guidelines on how to design good jumps. Does anyone out there know the specific formulas (or at least close) that better resorts use when calculating the angle and length of kicker and transition? We are looking for something along the lines of: for every foot of table the kicker/transistion should X feet long and for every degree of inclination on the kicker the transistion should have a downslope of Y degrees. So does anyone know of a good resource for this information (internet or book) or does anyone work in a terrain park? Also, does anyone have any idea how we can convince management to devote more resources to this project? Our biggest problem is that they won't hire anyone to go out and clean up the jumps and transitions during the day. Thanks Garrett |
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"gwmccull" wrote in message om... Hello, I'm a ski/snowboard instructor at a little resort in California. Our terrain park is pretty lousy right now so a couple of the instructors are putting together a proposal for management on how to improve our park. What do you think should be included in a good novice/intermediate terrain park? Remember, this has to be a fairly mellow park for a family-oriented resort. We currently have a few toys: a 16ft rail, a kinked rail, a mail box, a fun box and a rainbow box. We are also looking for some guidelines on how to design good jumps. Does anyone out there know the specific formulas (or at least close) that better resorts use when calculating the angle and length of kicker and transition? As an older rider, I wonder why all the bigger jumps I've seen have such a big cut behind them. This makes most of the jumps require high speeds for safety. If you go too slow, you land flat - hard. I'd appreciate a jump with the gap behind the jump filled in so that you could safely take it at slower speeds, and build up until you get the distance. If you go fast, the air time would be identical. You'd just nevewr be very high off the ground. Jumps of this type would give newer riders a chance to safely learn how to do the big jumps. Bob |
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I'd like to see more aligator pits, and flaming hoops.
Seriously though, it be nice to have some jumps into powder.. a few snowmakers strategically placed to get some big (man made) powder would be interesting to see in a park. |
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Seriously though, it be nice to have some jumps into powder.. a few
snowmakers strategically placed to get some big (man made) powder would be interesting to see in a park. I'm not so sure I'd want to see that. First of all, landing in deep snow is harder than landing on groomed snow. It's a lot easier to auger your tip into the snow and wind up doing a cartwheel. Second, it would get tracked up after a dozen jumps, and landing in tracked up deep snow is even harder! Those who ride backcountry or even "in bounds backcountry" would be fine. But the crowd that never leaves the park would kill themselves! Mike T |
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Mike T wrote:
But the crowd that never leaves the park would kill themselves! You say that like it's a bad thing. Neil |
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Sorry, no snow making allowed at our resort :-( I do like the idea
about making tables and not gap jumps (posted earlier). Garrett (Edmunde Lee) wrote in message . com... I'd like to see more aligator pits, and flaming hoops. Seriously though, it be nice to have some jumps into powder.. a few snowmakers strategically placed to get some big (man made) powder would be interesting to see in a park. |
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"Mike T" wrote in message ...
Seriously though, it be nice to have some jumps into powder.. a few snowmakers strategically placed to get some big (man made) powder would be interesting to see in a park. I'm not so sure I'd want to see that. First of all, landing in deep snow is harder than landing on groomed snow. It's a lot easier to auger your tip into the snow and wind up doing a cartwheel. Second, it would get tracked up after a dozen jumps, and landing in tracked up deep snow is even harder! Yeah, you're probably right... I suppose that big glorious mound of powder would just turn into a big glorious mound of hard snow, sooner than later.. Flaming hoops go a long way though... |
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I'm a total noob in the park, but I will give you my comments from a
noob's perspective: I like tables that have a choice of kickers at different distances. Leave a gap where someone can ride over with no kick... it'll be good for people who have never jumped, who want to just check speed and distance first before hitting, and for people following their budy with a video camera. I like tables that have a steep enough transition back down to the slope, and that round off the spot where the table flat meets the transition. Hitting the jump a little short and landing on this sharply defined "shelf edge" cuz they didn't round into the transition sucks. Landing on a transition that's to flat sucks too. I hate tables where they try to compensate for a small table by giving the kicker a sharp upturn at the end to really launch you. My friends who are better in the park seem to agree, it makes it hard to launch smooth into bigger spin tricks. The exception seems to be backflips. But for that a quarterpipe is a better launch anyhow. Timberline here has a great beginners rail... It's just a couple inches off the snow. If I were going to learn rails, I'd want something like that. The rest of your park inventory sounds pretty good. Maybe add a curved or s shaped rail or box? |
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Neil Gendzwill wrote in message ...
Mike T wrote: But the crowd that never leaves the park would kill themselves! You say that like it's a bad thing. I hope you're joking, right? |
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