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volkl kendo vs stockli Stormrider 88
On Friday, 4 March 2016 15:13:50 UTC-8, lal_truckee wrote:
Our mutually argumentative co-poster is wrong to disparage NASTAR thus. NASTAR isn't as popular here in the west as it appears to be in the east; I don't believe I've ever seen a NASTAR course. (Maybe at Bend long ago.) I don't know why. Daily I see training courses with coaching set for everyone from 5 year olds to Masters and elites, but no NASTAR. Decades past coin-op timed courses were commonly set for civilians but not NASTARized. I didn't disparage NASTAR. I said that, unlike what Downhill likes to pretend, NASTAR is not anything like 'real' racing.... i.e.- FIS sanctioned races. If you want 'real' racing with full-length courses, etc., then compete in FIS Masters program. NASTAR encourages resorts across the country to standardize their course(s) to have a par time of 23 seconds... hardly a 'real' race course. BTW, The 'big time car racers' analogy (cart-F1) doesn't hold water. Name a single World Cup racer that got their start in NASTAR. |
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volkl kendo vs stockli Stormrider 88
lal_truckee wrote:
On 3/4/16 9:33 AM, downhill wrote: lal_truckee wrote: You are correct; All big time car race drivers got their start on what is essentially the kiddie go-cart track. Agreeing with idiots only takes you to their level. Not being hostile. Pointing out that everybody starts somewhere. You don't even move right into dirt track racing without experience. Cart is a common starting point, as is dirt bike. Our mutually argumentative co-poster is wrong to disparage NASTAR thus. NASTAR isn't as popular here in the west as it appears to be in the east; I don't believe I've ever seen a NASTAR course. (Maybe at Bend long ago.) I don't know why. Daily I see training courses with coaching set for everyone from 5 year olds to Masters and elites, but no NASTAR. Decades past coin-op timed courses were commonly set for civilians but not NASTARized. There was a big uproar this years when USSA bought NASTAR and decided to build there own software not using the original developer. The software did not work so no one could get timing. Then race the gates released a version that worked and NASTAR sites started to drop. USSA bought the race the gates developers and now the software is back to normal. Out east there is still some NASTAR but a lot less than there was. Mt Snow had it and used to run Masters races also. They dropped both so we sold the on site property we had. They are now more interested in the park and pimping thing with half pipes. Bellayre had NASTAR but somebody died on the NASTAR course and they dropped it the next season. Alot of the adult leagues use the NASTAR scoring and record keeping and they run longer courses some do not offer public NASTAR. We will see if the joining of NASTAR and USSA is a good thing or a fork in the back. But much like formula car racing ski racing has too much competition from other options that did not exist 30 years ago and there seems to be less interest in both.. |
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volkl kendo vs stockli Stormrider 88
lal_truckee wrote:
You don't even move right into dirt track racing without experience. Cart is a common starting point, as is dirt bike. The Brazilian Driver Massa regularly races karts when he is home in brazil. Two of the kids in the F2000 series were from Brazil and had video and autographs& pictures of them racing against Massa in karts. One of the kids was a pretty good racer, he won the F2000 championship 4 or so years ago and then graduated to Indy lights. He won one Indy lights race the day that Weldon lost his head, so there was little or no coverage of his race. But he still karts and there are many other driver that do to stay in shape and most up coming drivers spend time in karts. The same way most drivers have also spent time in formula fords or other small bore formula car. I was at a kart track assisting my friend and he was driving the track. He came in after a session followed by a track hot shoe, a quick 12 year old. The kid is mumbling I can not pass that old guy, who is he. I said he used to race against Mario. The kid goes who's Mario? |
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volkl kendo vs stockli Stormrider 88
Well he is right about that. On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:55:21 PM UTC-7, wrote: BTW, I can understand how you would want to ignore anyone or anything that "is based in reality" when reality for you is that you're an illiterate moron who can't ski worth crap and you think that NASTAR is anything like real racing. Here's a clue for you, NASTAR is to ski racing what a kiddie go-cart track is to formula 1. |
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volkl kendo vs stockli Stormrider 88
On Friday, March 4, 2016 at 9:53:10 AM UTC-7, lal_truckee wrote:
You are correct; All big time car race drivers got their start on what is essentially the kiddie go-cart track. You are right too. But I don't think that they thought that they were "big time car race drivers" at the time. |
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