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"Simon Brown" wrote in message ... This morning I read that the Swiss team can't even train on a glacier in Saas Fee. Someone in the team said that the snow is too soft to support the poles / gates / whatever they are called. Last year they could train until about 13:30, this year it's unusable by 09:00. At least yesterday evening / overnight we had some rain in Laax, even if only 3 cms it was very welcome, but the warm weather is already returning and will be up to 30C again by Saturday. The shortage of water means too little food for the cows so they are *already* coming down from the summer pastures and being slaughtered. Some mountain cheese factories can't produce any cheese 'cos there's no milk. It's very worrying indeed. -- Yes even back in June when we were on the 2 Alpes glacier with the French team (Montillet, Covilli et al) they gave up mid-week, telling us that those who could afford it were off to Chile. Down here in Provence it's been really strange weather. Hailstorms (one very local one removed not just the fruit but every leaf from entire orchards and vineyards), otherwise everything grew twice as much as usual early Spring and is now dying off without copious amounts of watering. June and July temperatures have been way above the norm. Scary. Pete |
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If there's no cheese, does that mean that tartiflette is off the menu for my
Christmas ski trip? Rob "Simon Brown" wrote in message ... This morning I read that the Swiss team can't even train on a glacier in Saas Fee. Someone in the team said that the snow is too soft to support the poles / gates / whatever they are called. Last year they could train until about 13:30, this year it's unusable by 09:00. At least yesterday evening / overnight we had some rain in Laax, even if only 3 cms it was very welcome, but the warm weather is already returning and will be up to 30C again by Saturday. The shortage of water means too little food for the cows so they are *already* coming down from the summer pastures and being slaughtered. Some mountain cheese factories can't produce any cheese 'cos there's no milk. It's very worrying indeed. -- Simon Brown, Postfach 159, CH-7031 Laax www.hb9drv.ch "PG" wrote in message ... From the Beeb site.... "France and many other parts of Europe have been sweltering in exceptional summer heat. Swiss temperatures hit their highest for 200 years on Tuesday - reaching 37C (99F). A rock face on the Matterhorn crumbled on Tuesday, as a result of melting ice at a height of 3,400 metres (11,220 feet). " |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... Is it bad to dream about skiing when it's not even August yet? Sad, not bad :-) -- Simon Brown, Postfach 159, CH-7031 Laax www.hb9drv.ch |
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"PG" wrote in message
... Well I'm glad that's sorted out. I'm reassured ... I think ... Depressing reading for ski resorts in today's Sonntags Zeitung (in German): http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/dyn/news/fokus/index.html It will get warmer, warmer, and warmer. -- Simon Brown, Postfach 159, CH-7031 Laax www.hb9drv.ch |
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 10:45:21 +0200, "Simon Brown"
wrote: "PG" wrote in message ... Well I'm glad that's sorted out. I'm reassured ... I think ... Depressing reading for ski resorts in today's Sonntags Zeitung (in German): http://www.sonntagszeitung.ch/dyn/news/fokus/index.html It will get warmer, warmer, and warmer. And yet I was strolling round the tops in the Grand Massif a couple of hours ago and it was pleasant, nice breeze not too warm at all pretty normal for the time of year I thought, back down below 1500m it soon starts to get like an oven though. Ian |
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"PG" wrote in message ...
"David Off" wrote in message om... No !!! :-), we are in the maximum sunspot activity cycle - you have to wait until 2006ish for the next cold winters, there is also a 1500 year sunspot cycle which we are heading to the maximum part of (hence the climate optimum in 1300). So the next cold spell will be hotter than the previous. hey, it's only bandwidth... Well I'm glad that's sorted out. I'm reassured ... I think ... The sunspot research is being carried out by Eduoard Bard from the College de France (based in Aix-en-Provence). Bard proposes a 10 year cycle with lowspots in 86-96-06 etc but with an upward trend, I think an average 0.05C increase each ten years. As far as I know this work has not yet been published, I've not found a reference. He is also the guy behind work on the possibility of the gulf stream switching off. Work at the University of Columbia has also suggests a 1500 year climate cycle -which would account for the Roman/Chinese climate optimum (and not the medieval climate optimum as I said) and we are heading to a new peak. A note about the medieval climate optimum which enabled Vikings to colonise Greenland, this appears to have been a regional event (maybe linked to increased gulf stream activity?) not a global event. You should take any articles saying that the current spell of global warming is a similar event with a large pinch of salt. Just as you should not confuse the current heatwave in southern/central Europe (weather) with long term trends (climate). David |
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David Off schrieb:
The sunspot research is being carried out by Eduoard Bard from the College de France (based in Aix-en-Provence). Bard proposes a 10 year cycle with lowspots in 86-96-06 etc but with an upward trend, I think an average 0.05C increase each ten years. As far as I know this work has not yet been published, I've not found a reference. He is also the guy behind work on the possibility of the gulf stream switching off. AFAIK the theory that says the gulf stream might switch off in case off global warming (causing some kind of new ice age in north western Europe) has been worked out by the University of Potsdam. There is a major climate research center over there. :-) Björn |
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"B. Meier" wrote in message ...
David Off schrieb: He is also the guy behind work on the possibility of the gulf stream switching off. AFAIK the theory that says the gulf stream might switch off in case off global warming (causing some kind of new ice age in north western Europe) has been worked out by the University of Potsdam. You are correct, it was my mistake, I meant to say 'one of the guys'. In fact M. Bard suggests that the switching of the North Atlantic Deep Water (NADW) current is not likely in today's climate. As with all this academic research there are a lot of people who contribute to the ideas but it is true that the Potsdam group along with Richard Alley at Pen State University have proposed that the NADW current exhibits stochastic behaviour. It is like pushing a ball up a hill (or introducing increasing amounts of fresh water into the North Atlantic though melting perma-frost and ice sheets). You reach the summit and suddenly the ball starts to roll away from you very very rapidly. Quite where we are on the hill today and how steep it is are unknown. |
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