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  #11  
Old September 3rd 10, 08:02 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Sep 3, 10:52*am, Dick G wrote:
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:44:48 -0700 (PDT), Richard Henry



wrote:
On Sep 3, 7:30*am, pigo wrote:
On Sep 3, 5:13*am, Dick G wrote:


http://www.skinet.com/ski/blogs/2010...s-to-cap-avoid....


Makes a ton of sense for kids, but simultaneously I hate the fact that
government once again intrudes in our private lives and tells us what
we can and cannot do


Welcome to the nanny state. It's only going to get worse for the next
few months anyway. Common sense says that children under 18 should
wear helmets everytime they leave the house.


It's like the newest controversy over texting. I've heard reports that
it's 10X more dangerous than driving with a BAC of .25 ! If that is so
why don't they move resourses from DUI to text patrols? As with the
helmets it's just some special interest group that wants control over
someone to make themselves feel needed.


I think snowboarders should be required to have someone walk 50 feet
ahead of them waving a red flag to warn other snowsporters.


Averagely speaking, what is the ratio of skiers to boarders on a hill
at any given time? I was thinking it is somewhere around 70% skiers,
30 boarders. The danger for our sport might be the adoption of
boarding by the younger crowd which I have seen at 60-40 or 50-50 on
some runs/days


That depends on the mountain. In SoCal, for instance, there is a much
higher proportion of snowboarders at Bear Mountain than at Snow
Summit, even though they are just a few miles apart and operated by
the same company.
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  #12  
Old September 4th 10, 12:36 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Dave Cartman
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In article
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Richard Henry wrote:


I think snowboarders should be required to have someone walk 50 feet
ahead of them waving a red flag to warn other snowsporters.


I agree! That way I'd always know jump were clear. And we could get
them to carry a directors chair and urn of hot cocoa too! Do know
anyone in the Department of Laws I could call to tell them about this?
  #13  
Old September 4th 10, 12:42 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Dave Cartman
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In article ,
Dick G wrote:

On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:35:14 -0700 (PDT), Richard Henry
wrote:



I bought my kids helmets after one of them slid off the edge of a
trail and down through a grove of trees on an icy day at Big Bear.
The day after we got them, the other son hit his head on a lift chair
frame, and the only injury was a scratch on the helmet.

But no one told me I HAD to do it.

We did the same, bought helmets for everyone in the family. My wife
and I had no problems with ours, got used to them very quickly.
Biggest issue is the space that they take up in the Thule. My youngest
daughter was ok with hers, she wore it as instructed. The oldest
daughter was another story, she hated it.....what can you do


I've worn a helmet for years and really like it, despite *not* being a
Sooper XXXtreme snowboarder. It's super warm, branches just skitter off
it and best of all - your googles don't fog when you slide them up on
your head. The plastic and insulation keep the water vapor off them.

That being said, I think it should be up to the snow sports enthusiast
as to whether to choose to wear one or not. I say this with absolute
seriousness. Shussing down open mountains for 50 years with the wind in
your hair might be worth dying of a preventable head injury.

I believe in personal choices and personal freedoms... for the medically
insured
  #14  
Old September 4th 10, 04:27 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On 09/03/10 17:42, Dave Cartman wrote:

I've worn a helmet for years and really like it, despite *not* being a
Sooper XXXtreme snowboarder. It's super warm, branches just skitter off
it and best of all - your googles don't fog when you slide them up on
your head. The plastic and insulation keep the water vapor off them.


It's not cold where I ski, and there are no branches. The only reason I
wear long sleeves after 10:00 am is to avoid sunburn. My goggles have
never fogged up no matter what I do with them. Liquid detergent rubbed
in/off works fine.

That being said, I think it should be up to the snow sports enthusiast
as to whether to choose to wear one or not. I say this with absolute
seriousness. Shussing down open mountains for 50 years with the wind in
your hair might be worth dying of a preventable head injury.


I wouldn't dream of getting on a motorcycle without a helmet. The visor
on my bicycle helmet keeps the sun out of my eyes. It's also supposed
to protect my head if it hits the ground in a simple fall from 6 feet.
The mathematically-inclined may inform us of its velocity when it hits
the ground, but I suspect it's less than the speeds I normally ride at
downhill. Uphill it's probably a draw.

I see kids wearing bike helmets backwards, pushed far back on their
head, no straps, too large, etc., and I realize that Darwin failed when
their parents reproduced.

I believe in personal choices and personal freedoms... for the medically
insured


A helmet wouldn't have saved my ribs, which broke when I didn't have
insurance. The nice thing about broken ribs is they heal by themselves.
There's a theory that perhaps it's better for people to die right off
the bat from a split skull than to linger as a vegetable for many years.

I'm amazed at the things kids get away with -- all because the ones who
couldn't attracted Darwin's attention. If the governmental assholes
want to save lives, fix the goddam potholes.

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  #15  
Old September 4th 10, 04:31 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Alan Baker
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Default California Helmet Law

In article
,
Richard Henry wrote:

On Sep 3, 4:13*am, Dick G wrote:
http://www.skinet.com/ski/blogs/2010...s-to-cap-avoid...

Makes a ton of sense for kids, but simultaneously I hate the fact that
government once again intrudes in our private lives and tells us what
we can and cannot do


I bought my kids helmets after one of them slid off the edge of a
trail and down through a grove of trees on an icy day at Big Bear.
The day after we got them, the other son hit his head on a lift chair
frame, and the only injury was a scratch on the helmet.

But no one told me I HAD to do it.


A couple of years ago, one of the younger instructors up at Cypress came
into the instructors' shack after have crashed on one of the cruisers --
where he'd hit a rock or a tree (I forget which) after he'd gone down
and headed off to the side of the run.

His helmet was cracked across almost in two...

....but his head was still in one piece.

I think I'm buying a helmet this year.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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  #16  
Old September 4th 10, 04:46 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Richard Henry
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On Sep 3, 9:31*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
*Richard Henry wrote:

On Sep 3, 4:13*am, Dick G wrote:
http://www.skinet.com/ski/blogs/2010...s-to-cap-avoid....


Makes a ton of sense for kids, but simultaneously I hate the fact that
government once again intrudes in our private lives and tells us what
we can and cannot do


I bought my kids helmets after one of them slid off the edge of a
trail and down through a grove of trees on an icy day at Big Bear.
The day after we got them, the other son hit his head on a lift chair
frame, and the only injury was a scratch on the helmet.


But no one told me I HAD to do it.


A couple of years ago, one of the younger instructors up at Cypress came
into the instructors' shack after have crashed on one of the cruisers --
where he'd hit a rock or a tree (I forget which) after he'd gone down
and headed off to the side of the run.

His helmet was cracked across almost in two...

...but his head was still in one piece.

I think I'm buying a helmet this year.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg


Ny skiing injuries have been limited to a sprained ankle (hit a water
bar I didn't see when a wind gust blew snow across my vision and I
went flying) and a bruised knee (hit a rock hidden in a shallow-snow
cat track and landed on another one). No helmet would have helped
those.
  #17  
Old September 4th 10, 04:52 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
Alan Baker
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Default California Helmet Law

In article
,
Richard Henry wrote:

On Sep 3, 9:31*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
*Richard Henry wrote:

On Sep 3, 4:13*am, Dick G wrote:
http://www.skinet.com/ski/blogs/2010...s-to-cap-avoid...


Makes a ton of sense for kids, but simultaneously I hate the fact that
government once again intrudes in our private lives and tells us what
we can and cannot do


I bought my kids helmets after one of them slid off the edge of a
trail and down through a grove of trees on an icy day at Big Bear.
The day after we got them, the other son hit his head on a lift chair
frame, and the only injury was a scratch on the helmet.


But no one told me I HAD to do it.


A couple of years ago, one of the younger instructors up at Cypress came
into the instructors' shack after have crashed on one of the cruisers --
where he'd hit a rock or a tree (I forget which) after he'd gone down
and headed off to the side of the run.

His helmet was cracked across almost in two...

...but his head was still in one piece.

I think I'm buying a helmet this year.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg


Ny skiing injuries have been limited to a sprained ankle (hit a water
bar I didn't see when a wind gust blew snow across my vision and I
went flying) and a bruised knee (hit a rock hidden in a shallow-snow
cat track and landed on another one). No helmet would have helped
those.


I like to ski fast... ...really fast.

I grew up as a ski racer and there's nothing I like better than heading
down a groomed run at 45mph+.

It's a consideration.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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Old September 4th 10, 05:06 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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Default California Helmet Law

On Sep 3, 9:31*pm, Alan Baker wrote:
In article
,
*Richard Henry wrote:

On Sep 3, 4:13*am, Dick G wrote:
http://www.skinet.com/ski/blogs/2010...s-to-cap-avoid....


Makes a ton of sense for kids, but simultaneously I hate the fact that
government once again intrudes in our private lives and tells us what
we can and cannot do


I bought my kids helmets after one of them slid off the edge of a
trail and down through a grove of trees on an icy day at Big Bear.
The day after we got them, the other son hit his head on a lift chair
frame, and the only injury was a scratch on the helmet.


But no one told me I HAD to do it.


A couple of years ago, one of the younger instructors up at Cypress came
into the instructors' shack after have crashed on one of the cruisers --
where he'd hit a rock or a tree (I forget which) after he'd gone down
and headed off to the side of the run.

His helmet was cracked across almost in two...

...but his head was still in one piece.

I think I'm buying a helmet this year.



Given your mental illness, delusional thought processes, and
pathological lying, I would have thought your brain was damaged a long
time ago.
Do you know I was wearing a helmet when we waited for you to show up
at Whistler, but you were such a ppppppuuuuuusssssyyyy you chickened
out?
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Old September 4th 10, 11:11 AM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:31:36 -0700, Alan Baker
wrote this crap:


I think I'm buying a helmet this year.


Do us a favor. Don't buy a helmet.


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power in the universe

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Old September 4th 10, 02:06 PM posted to rec.skiing.alpine
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On Sep 3, 6:42*pm, Dave Cartman wrote:

I believe in personal choices and personal freedoms... for the medically
insured


Now there's an idea. Allow helmet free skiing if you present a valid
insurance card.
 




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