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Le Grand Bornand - thoughts
We are thinking of going to Le Grand Bornand in January 2004, any thoughts
on this place for skiing etc. We are looking at Self Catering Accommodation. Don't need night clubs, as we prefer bars and restaurants. We are a mixed group, some will need ski school, while others will be hunting out the blacks. We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Thanks in advance. Julian Ashcroft |
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:47:19 +0100, "Julian Ashcroft"
wrote: We are thinking of going to Le Grand Bornand in January 2004, any thoughts on this place for skiing etc. We are looking at Self Catering Accommodation. Don't need night clubs, as we prefer bars and restaurants. We are a mixed group, some will need ski school, while others will be hunting out the blacks. We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. I repped for a week in La Clusaz, which is just up the road, a couple of years ago, and skied one day at Le GB. Both are small traditional villages and quite pleasant places to stay. They're both part of the Aravis ski area, which is reasonably extensive and varied. Skiing can be a little limited, however, by the ~2100m maximum altitude, particularly early in the season or in poor (wet) weather. Also, the villages are very low, so skiing back to resort may often be, err, interesting :-} That apart, there's a reasonable variety of terrain and levels of difficulty, but advanced to expert skiers may get bored quite quickly, unless they're into off-piste, of which there's plenty (in La Clusaz, at least), but for the best of which I'd recommend a mountain guide. You might also like to consider the Grand Massif - Flaine/Samoens/Les Carroz/Morrillon. It's just a tiny bit further south, but still only an hour (or less, when I'm driving) from Geneva. Much more variety and quantity of skiing, and a much better snow record. HTH Check out the Ski Club's historical snow reports at http://www.skiclub.co.uk/skiclub/dir...al/default.asp. -- Ace in Alsace - bruce dot rogers at roche dot com Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Le Grand Bornand - thoughts
"Julian Ashcroft" wrote in message
... We are thinking of going to Le Grand Bornand in January 2004, any thoughts on this place for skiing etc. We are looking at Self Catering Accommodation. Don't need night clubs, as we prefer bars and restaurants. We are a mixed group, some will need ski school, while others will be hunting out the blacks. We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Thanks in advance. Julian Ashcroft Le Grand Bornand: We stayed at Chinaillon, which gives more direct access to the slopes. On average I would say that the slopes are steeper, colour for colour, than those in the Grand Massif or PdeS. Several restaurants in Chinaillon, including our favourite in the whole of the Alps. We only spent half day in Clusaz, we did not enjoy that but it was flat light and icey up top and heavy slush at the bottom, so our judgement is unreliable. As intermediate skiers and boarders we enjoyed our week at Bornand. We booked our appartment over the internet with the local tourist office. Grand Massif: I recommend staying in Les Carroz, which gives good access to the rest of the Flaine area but has good tree skiing if the weather closes in. Plenty of restauants in Carroz. Samoens is nice but you can get stuck in its own little valley in poor weather. Morillon is better in that respect but we have not stayed there. Portes de Soleil: Anywhere here will be good. In my view the best snow and scenery are in the Linga sector between Chatel and Avoriaz. All are low but we have always been able to find sufficient snow. Rod |
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"Julian Ashcroft" wrote in message ...
We are thinking of going to Le Grand Bornand in January 2004, any thoughts on this place for skiing etc. We are looking at Self Catering Accommodation. Don't need night clubs, as we prefer bars and restaurants. We are a mixed group, some will need ski school, while others will be hunting out the blacks. We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Thanks in advance. Julian Ashcroft We went for a long weekend in La Clusaz (just down the road from GB) last Feb. There was enough skiing to keep us happy for a few days, but on a sunny Saturday the lift queues were huge, and the lift system is a little antiquated. Unfortunately all the Genevans (Genevois?) know it's only an hour down the road as well... at 5pm the traffic was completely solid with day-trippers leaving. |
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Le Grand Bornand - thoughts
"Julian Ashcroft" wrote in message ...
We are thinking of going to Le Grand Bornand in January 2004, any thoughts on this place for skiing etc. We are looking at Self Catering Accommodation. Don't need night clubs, as we prefer bars and restaurants. We are a mixed group, some will need ski school, while others will be hunting out the blacks. We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Thanks in advance. Julian Ashcroft Verbier is only about 1.5 hours drive and it's nearly all on motorway. |
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On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 18:03:48 +0200, Ace wrote:
On 31 Jul 2003 10:16:39 -0700, (Frances Hinden) wrote: "Julian Ashcroft" wrote in message ... We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Verbier is only about 1.5 hours drive and it's nearly all on motorway. From Geneva? I think not. You've got to drive either all the way around lac Leman, via Thonon and Evian (not a fast road by any stretch of the imagination) then down the motorway to Martigny before starting to climb up to Verbier _or_ motorway to Argentiere then over the pass (if it's open) down into Martigny. The former is going to take at least 1.5 hours before you reach the motorway, probably more, and the latter is a good 1.5 hours to Argentiere, before you reach the pass. Not done either route in toto, but I'd be surprised if you could do Most people would go via Lausanne, something like 160-170 km I'd guess. Which would be be about 1.5 to 2 hours and nearly all motorway just like the man said :-) -- Yeah, because you never know when the value of 2^15 will change and you have to go through all your code fixing it. -- Paul Tomblin |
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Ace wrote in message . ..
On 31 Jul 2003 10:16:39 -0700, (Frances Hinden) wrote: "Julian Ashcroft" wrote in message ... We have already booked our flights with Easyjet to Geneva (£60.00 return). If you don't know anything about Le Grand Bornand any other suggestions would be welcome around an hour or so's travel from Geneva. Verbier is only about 1.5 hours drive and it's nearly all on motorway. From Geneva? I think not. You've got to drive either all the way around lac Leman, via Thonon and Evian (not a fast road by any stretch of the imagination) then down the motorway to Martigny before starting to climb up to Verbier _or_ motorway to Argentiere then over the pass (if it's open) down into Martigny. The former is going to take at least 1.5 hours before you reach the motorway, probably more, and the latter is a good 1.5 hours to Argentiere, before you reach the pass. Not done either route in toto, but I'd be surprised if you could do it in less than 2,5 hours even in ideal conditions, no traffic and ignoring all the speed limits. Well I was asleep most of the way (not being the driver) so I couldn't tell you the route but we did it in about 1.5hrs arriving 1.30am Good Friday. Admittedly it took rather longer on the way back on the afternoon of Easter Monday. |
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On 5 Aug 2003 08:46:41 -0700, (Frances Hinden)
wrote: Ace wrote in message . .. genva - verbier Not done either route in toto, but I'd be surprised if you could do it in less than 2,5 hours even in ideal conditions, no traffic and ignoring all the speed limits. Well I was asleep most of the way (not being the driver) so I couldn't tell you the route but we did it in about 1.5hrs arriving 1.30am Good Friday. All right already - I admit it can be done, as shown in Ian's and Jeremy's posts, OK? Now get off my case ;-) But the time at which you did it is probably relevant too. Admittedly it took rather longer on the way back on the afternoon of Easter Monday. Ahh, that sounds more like it... -- Ace in Alsace - bruce dot rogers at roche dot com Ski Club of Great Britain http://www.skiclub.co.uk All opinions expressed are personal and in no way represent those of the Ski Club. |
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Ace wrote in news:h0ovivgabn44m3uar4orac4e4kcra2fjbf@
4ax.com: But the time at which you did it is probably relevant too. Hate to do this Ace, but I've done Verbier pre-Xmas twice on weekend trips both around 1.5 hours on a Friday or Sunday, 8-9amish there and 4-5pmish back. regards, greg |
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