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Old December 6th 07, 01:41 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)
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Default Single-camber skis for homemade trails?

Does anyone have experience with single-camber skis versus double on
homemade trails? (Not set track.)

I suppose that all touring wood skis are single camber. I suppose they
made racing models with double cambers.

(What are these cambers anyway? I'm guessing that a camber is a "hinge
point" where an arch is built into a ski. A single has this arch under
the foot and a double has it, say, 8" in front of the foot and also 3"
behind it, with a relatively low-flexing portion in between. ?)

I worry that single camber will give a draggy feel to those who use
high level skiing technique.

But maybe with an imperfect, uneven skied-in trail a single camber
flows better. ? Slips less often? ---I rarely had my double ski slip
in homemade trails but it did happen.

I could see singles working best in unbroken snow.

They probably also work better in tricky downhill handling, corners.

So far my fave allrounder skied-in trail ski has been the Fischer
AirCore Touring Light, waxable, 58mm wide. Double camber. Weight 1 lb
12 oz per ski with binding. Bought in 1991, skied very hard for 15
years before breaking.

I did notice that it didn't float the best in ungroomed snow.

I just got a pair of 60mm new Fischer Country skis---single camber.
Same shovel width, I now see---hmmm. Wider midsection and tail. Weight
2 lbs without binding.

Does anyone test these skis and see if new ideas work better than old
ones?

Does anyone test touring boots to see if they don't destroy human
heels before making them?

--JP
oyb
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Old December 7th 07, 10:46 PM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
EdV
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Default Single-camber skis for homemade trails?

On Dec 6, 7:41 am, "Jeff Potter (of OutYourBackdoor.com)"
wrote:
Does anyone have experience with single-camber skis versus double on
homemade trails? (Not set track.)

I suppose that all touring wood skis are single camber. I suppose they
made racing models with double cambers.

(What are these cambers anyway? I'm guessing that a camber is a "hinge
point" where an arch is built into a ski. A single has this arch under
the foot and a double has it, say, 8" in front of the foot and also 3"
behind it, with a relatively low-flexing portion in between. ?)

I worry that single camber will give a draggy feel to those who use
high level skiing technique.

But maybe with an imperfect, uneven skied-in trail a single camber
flows better. ? Slips less often? ---I rarely had my double ski slip
in homemade trails but it did happen.

I could see singles working best in unbroken snow.

They probably also work better in tricky downhill handling, corners.

So far my fave allrounder skied-in trail ski has been the Fischer
AirCore Touring Light, waxable, 58mm wide. Double camber. Weight 1 lb
12 oz per ski with binding. Bought in 1991, skied very hard for 15
years before breaking.

I did notice that it didn't float the best in ungroomed snow.

I just got a pair of 60mm new Fischer Country skis---single camber.
Same shovel width, I now see---hmmm. Wider midsection and tail. Weight
2 lbs without binding.

Does anyone test these skis and see if new ideas work better than old
ones?

Does anyone test touring boots to see if they don't destroy human
heels before making them?

--JP
oyb


Hey Jeff,
I don't have a good answer for you but I have found that
setting a homemade track two or three times clockwise and then two or
three time counter clockwise flattens 'em out pretty good.

Loving this winter in Minneapolis!

Ed V.
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Old December 8th 07, 04:58 AM posted to rec.skiing.nordic
ziggy99
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Default Single-camber skis for homemade trails?

Double or one and a half camber are best for kick and glide; single
camber doesn't glide so well (since more of the base is in contact
with the snow) but turns better.

But in soft snow your wax pocket/pattern base is going to drag in any
case.
 




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