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Martin Thornquist wrote:
I use heavy tele because that's what I know, and, frankly, am getting quite good at. I figure if I tele exclusively my using heavy tele gear even in steep, hard terrain will make me a better tele skier overall, also when it comes to light gear in more mellow terrain. And I'm quite confident that is the case; I'm now able to tele on XC racing gear in the right conditions, I wouldn't be if I went to locked heel when doing steep skiing. If I were skiing every day I'd probably try both alpine and snowboard, but as it is I think it best to use my far too few skiing days on the one thing I'm starting to get a real grip on. To be clear, I no longer alpine and I do ski on heavy tele gear, especially at resorts. To a point, I agree with the arguement that skiing on heavy tele gear helps reinforce skills needed to tele on lighter gear. It is certainly *more* related than alpine skiing, to be sure. However, there are substantial and significant differences between how one skis on mid-fats and high plastic tele boots and how one turns on lighter gear. BTW, if you haven't tried alpine, you should give it a serious go for a season or so. As one person said, "I can ski the whole mountain on tele. But on alpine, I can rip it." I agree with Bob on this point, tele is harder than alpine. Much harder. You don't see any hiking advantage to tele? Granted, that AT boot with the bendable toe probably levels the field a bit, but I still imagine tele gives some advantage in hiking flatish terrain (sometimes you have to to get to the steeps). Some will point to the use of AT bindings in places like Antartica as proof of the adequacy long, flat approaches; especially when plodding under heavy loads. Others who have used both, will contend that the free pivot of AT bindings makes for easier climbing, especially when the snow gets steeper and deeper. I think the big advantage that nordic gear has is when you need to move between striding and turning frequently. Touring on rolling terrain is one example of places where nordic touring has the clear advantage, imo. Boots like the Excursion and skis light the Fischer S-Bound series are great examples of the upper end (in terms of weight) of equipment where nordic is superior to alpine. -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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Kurt wrote:
Excursions are my heavy tele, along w/ Volkl Mountains and cable bindings. I generally don't use the Excursions on rolling terrain. That's what leather boots are for. I can't disagree with this post. I *do* have some T1s for resort skiing but most of time is split between and Excursion class boot or Snowfields. -- Dave ============================================== "It is impossible, or not easy, to do noble acts without the proper equipment." Aristotle, Politics, 1323a-b, trans Jowett ============================================== |
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Booker wrote:
I don't agree with everything they [thebackcountry.net] say, but they are right next door to a shop with the Alpine testing equipment. If it was a simple as you state you should be able to get your AT skis tested at any shop with the equipment, yet most places won't do this. It could just be that they are not "trained/certified" on the binding or there could be some larger issue. Does Backcountry.com get the same results with different boots? I contacted Backcountry.com/bcstore.com -- yes, it is that simple according to them, and they use the standard alpine downhill torque tester from Vermont Safety Research. They say the test results are basically the same for alpine touring and alpine downhill: roughly the same consistency, favoring neither one over the other. |
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