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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Ed Pauls wrote in message ...
Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the release system. I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little for wet, heavy stuff. Good Ol' Ed I always find my bindings prereleasing because I race. I am sure that my dins are unsafe now. Sometimes the pre-releasing is caused by the binding design and not the din setting. Marker bindings for instance are mot good in the moguls at all. A better binding is sometimes much better for this. My tyroloia rac bindings with dins that go up to 17 will allow the boot to move 15 degrees out before they release. To better answer the question what tyoe of bindings do you have and what is your weight. I certainly agree with the fine tuning approach. One thing to consider is that you are basically out of luck in a binding malfuntction. So you had better be able to pay your own medical bills and not try to sue the binding maker if some |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Nope. I always move 'em up about 1 DIN point. As long as you
always go fast, they'll come off. I think ex-big dog racers usually have them set to 15. -Paul C. Ed Pauls wrote: : Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop : setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din : standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number : that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the : boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the : release system. : I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the : retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little : for wet, heavy stuff. : Good Ol' Ed : . |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop
setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the release system. I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little for wet, heavy stuff. Good Ol' Ed .. |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Paul Christofanelli wrote in message ...
Nope. I always move 'em up about 1 DIN point. As long as you always go fast, they'll come off. I think ex-big dog racers usually have them set to 15. -Paul C. Ed Pauls wrote: : Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop : setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din : standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number : that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the : boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the : release system. : I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the : retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little : for wet, heavy stuff. : Good Ol' Ed : . Just as a sidenote it is pretty hard to get a pair of bindings that go over 14. You usually need to get them from the factory or a rep ect. |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
John wrote:
: Paul Christofanelli wrote in message ... : Nope. I always move 'em up about 1 DIN point. As long as you : always go fast, they'll come off. I think ex-big dog racers : usually have them set to 15. : : -Paul C. : : Ed Pauls wrote: : : Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop : : setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din : : standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number : : that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the : : boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the : : release system. : : I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the : : retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little : : for wet, heavy stuff. : : : Good Ol' Ed : : : Just as a sidenote it is pretty hard to get a pair of bindings that go : over 14. You usually need to get them from the factory or a rep ect. That's funny. I originally wrote 14, because that's what I remember this ex-US ski team dude has his set to. But then I thought "15", ala Spinal Tap (or was that a different movie?). -PC |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
"Paul Christofanelli" wrote in message ... John wrote: : Paul Christofanelli wrote in message ... : Nope. I always move 'em up about 1 DIN point. As long as you : always go fast, they'll come off. I think ex-big dog racers : usually have them set to 15. : : -Paul C. : : Ed Pauls wrote: : : Do the shop settings work for you? Personally Ihave never had a shop : : setting work for me. The skis have always pre released when set to Din : : standards. I consider this more dangerous than setting them to a number : : that I know works for me. I check the binding operation by pushing the : : boots out of the ski by hand to see that there is no catching in the : : release system. : : I also fine tune for different conditions, I will always tighten the : : retention for a "death if you fall " situation and loosen them a little : : for wet, heavy stuff. : : : Good Ol' Ed : : : Just as a sidenote it is pretty hard to get a pair of bindings that go : over 14. You usually need to get them from the factory or a rep ect. That's funny. I originally wrote 14, because that's what I remember this ex-US ski team dude has his set to. But then I thought "15", ala Spinal Tap (or was that a different movie?). 11. |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Richard Henry wrote:
: "Paul Christofanelli" wrote in message : That's funny. I originally wrote 14, because that's what I remember : this ex-US ski team dude has his set to. But then I thought "15", : ala Spinal Tap (or was that a different movie?). : : 11. It was "This is Spinal Tap", right? (I know in the movie it was "11", one beyond the normal maximum). -PC |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Ed Pauls wrote in message ...
Do the shop settings work for you? I'm a sloppy skiier so I always crank the shop settings up by 2, then crash a few times to see if I like when they release, and then increase 'em some more. Once I find the point of pain in binding release, I come back half a DIN. No pre-releases. No season-ending injuries either, because I am an expert in eating **** when I have a yard sale. Someday I will probably pay the price, but in the meantime I never pre-release and when my skis need to come off, they REALLY need to come off. Like when I arrive at the bar. |
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Ski binding settings, do you trust DIN recommendations?
Ed Pauls wrote:
Do the shop settings work for you? I think it depends on skiing style. If a skier's style induces regular lateral pressure components, then the recommended DIN may not provide the retention that skier desires. If a skier's style is more precise and centered, there is really very little lateral component imparted to the binding. A precise skier pressures directly down through the ski to the edges at all times, without perceptable sideways forces. Racing stress levels provide impulsive sideways thrust from high-speed rut impacts, etc, and higher DIN is required. Civilian skiers impart sideways thrust by being imprecise, mis-centered in balance, and sideslippage while skiing. I usually end up setting right at recommended (of course, I claim type III skier, and lower my age a decade, to get that original recommended level.) Seems to work. A final point - impulse release: Slow twisting falls are more dangerous than high-speed impact falls as far as knees are concerned. Bindings behave the opposite - they release easier at high impulse force than in slow twists. So where a DIN 16 will release when you crash your DH boards at 65mph, you'd tear your knee up doing the same at 20mph. If slow twisting falls are more of a hazard for the skier than race speed crashes, keeping the DIN as low as will provide reasonable retention is probably a good idea. |
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