Trunk Excersises Needed

"VtSkier" wrote in message
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I hear that. I expect the water skis dragging behind
you with the rope in front of you was almost exactly
the experience I had.

The ski was gone quickly, even with a back boot they come off pretty
easily. It happened in one of the cartwheels.

If I had been in better shape, I believe the injury
wouldn't have been so severe. Do I do crunches
religiously? No. And I'm not in much better shape
now than I was then (7 or 8 years ago).

Oh, and that 7 or 8 years ago is a clue as to how
often we get powder.

OUCH !

I always skied myself into shape. That doesn't work anymore. I'll
be much more into hangin' with the group this time.

I've found that as long as I'm in cardio-vascular-
pulmonary reasonable shape so that I'm not puffing
at the end of a blue run, I can fake the skiing until
the muscles get strong. The CVP condition I try to
maintain with a bicycle in the off-season.

I used to frenzy about any kind of delay. First chair, first at the
rope drop, first tracks. Lately I go as much for the chair ride with
friends. Sometimes with visitors I've left them to go "ski" something
that they don't want to. While I do take a run or two, I often go
visit with the bartenders I've gotten to know over the years. And boy
oh boy does the Goldminers bar look different this year! Trainer is
still there though. And a little cutie from N. Carolina too!

pigo

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:50:16 -0600, "pigo"
wrote:

"VtSkier" wrote in message
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Oh, and that 7 or 8 years ago is a clue as to how
often we get powder.

OUCH !

The secret for New England skiers is to redefine your perception of
powder. If the snow moves when you kick it, it's powder. ;-)

If it doesn't move, it's packed powder.

If it has the consistency of mashed potatoes with gravy, it's spring
conditions.

Happy trails,
Gary (net.yogi.bear)
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"pigo" wrote in message
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I always skied myself into shape. That doesn't work anymore. I'll be much
more into hangin' with the group this time.

I know the feeling.
untill this year I just skied myself into shape as well.
this year however I tweaked my knee thinking I was going to just pick up
where I left off last year.

Dohhh.
MRI last wednesday.
torn ACL.
not bad enough to operate on at this point.

pigo wrote:

I've heard that a strong abdomen is essential for skiing well. Rather
than work on just one part, I want to work on the whole Trunk.But I
don't know what to do. Any suggestions?


Yeah, do Kegels. It worked wonders for the last four skiing GFs I had.

"LePheaux" wrote in message
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"pigo" wrote in message
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I always skied myself into shape. That doesn't work anymore. I'll be much
more into hangin' with the group this time.

I know the feeling.
untill this year I just skied myself into shape as well.
this year however I tweaked my knee thinking I was going to just pick up
where I left off last year.

I always ski into fitness again, but I take it slowly. First few days is
just cruising around. Having Skins dispenses with the muscle pain
(www.skins.com.au) and stiffness, but it's crazy to try and go all-out at
first.

Dohhh.
MRI last wednesday.
torn ACL.
not bad enough to operate on at this point.

bummer. will the muscles make up for it, or will it be unstable?

ant

On 2005-02-07, ant penned:
"LePheaux" wrote in message
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"pigo" wrote in message
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I always skied myself into shape. That doesn't work anymore. I'll be much
more into hangin' with the group this time.
I know the feeling. untill this year I just skied myself into shape
as well. this year however I tweaked my knee thinking I was going to just
pick up where I left off last year.

I always ski into fitness again, but I take it slowly. First few days is
just cruising around. Having Skins dispenses with the muscle pain
(www.skins.com.au) and stiffness, but it's crazy to try and go all-out at
first.

This is one reason I am very glad to have moved to Colorado. Because I start
skiing in early season, when only one or two blues are open, I am forced into
a gradual introduction.

I think I saw an ad for these skins, or some similar product, in Ski magazine.
Or maybe it was just part of an article. I wonder if they accept orders from
the US.

Do they work essentially as a long john bottom, or are they much warmer? How
does that work? I usually wear synthetic or silk LJ bottoms, cycling stretch
pants (not compression, just a form-fitted layer), and then a goretex shell.

--
monique
Longmont, CO

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"LePheaux" writes:
I know the feeling. untill this year I just skied myself
into shape as well.

I use the ski season to recover from the various injuries I inflict upon
myself during the "off season".
So far this year:

- Busted toe from soccer.
- Broken wrist from motocross.
- "Skier thumb" from motocross (this one really adds insult to injury !)
- 2nd degree burn from the "alpine Slide" at Winter Park.

The year before it was ankle surgery (soccer) and broken toe from
woodworking (in a pretty creative way...)

bruno.

VtSkier wrote:
pigo wrote:
I've heard that a strong abdomen is essential for skiing well.
Rather
than work on just one part, I want to work on the whole Trunk.But I

don't know what to do. Any suggestions?

Add crunches to whatever exercise regimen you
are currently doing.

Also there is a leg stretch with resistance
which is designed to strengthen your soaz
muscles which are the upper leg (femur)
flexors. Glutes are the femur extensors.
The soaz is the long muscle that runs up
inside your rib cage in back. In a beef it's
the loin or rib-eye.

I believe the "soaz" muscle referred to here is the psoas? So THAT's
where it's located! ;-

This from my osteopath:
Lie on the edge of the bed or better a massage
table with your legs hanging off and the edge
just about at your hip joint. You need to be
high enough off the floor so that you feet don't
touch. Allow your leg to dangle. Have someone
apply resistance just at the point where it
won't "straighten" any more. Push against the
resistance with hopefully 50% muscle power for
8 seconds. Relax. 3 reps. At each rep the resistance
point will be further down (closer to the floor).
The above is mainly for flexibility. Bicycle,
real or stationary is great for glutes and soaz
groups as well as hams and quads.

Much beyond this you are into upper body work,
which can be of help, but skiing IS a leg sport.

Hm, thanks for those, they sound like good training for pretty much
anything. I mtn. bike a lot duing the off-season and will keep these
in mind.


After some few fairly good turns, I over rotated
a turn, applied too much turning force to the
skis, got crosswise to the slope, fell forward
and stretched every muscle in my abdomen.

I was black, blue and purple from my sternum to
my crotch and in quite a bit of pain the next day.

ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow wowie! Now I'm really glad I mtn. bike!

VtSkier wrote:

Also there is a leg stretch with resistance
which is designed to strengthen your soaz
muscles which are the upper leg (femur)
flexors. Glutes are the femur extensors.
The soaz is the long muscle that runs up
inside your rib cage in back. In a beef it's
the loin or rib-eye.

I believe the "soaz" muscle referred to here is the psoas? So THAT's
where it's located! ;-

Cool, thanks for the excercises, they sound like good training for
pretty much anything. I mtn. bike a lot duing the off-season and will
keep these in mind.


After some few fairly good turns, I over rotated
a turn, applied too much turning force to the
skis, got crosswise to the slope, fell forward
and stretched every muscle in my abdomen.

I was black, blue and purple from my sternum to
my crotch and in quite a bit of pain the next day.

ow ow ow ow ow ow ow ow wowie! Now I'm really glad I mtn. bike!

"ant" wrote in message
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"LePheaux" wrote in message
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"pigo" wrote in message
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I always skied myself into shape. That doesn't work anymore. I'll be
much more into hangin' with the group this time.

I know the feeling.
untill this year I just skied myself into shape as well.
this year however I tweaked my knee thinking I was going to just pick up
where I left off last year.

I always ski into fitness again, but I take it slowly. First few days is
just cruising around. Having Skins dispenses with the muscle pain
(www.skins.com.au) and stiffness, but it's crazy to try and go all-out at
first.

Dohhh.
MRI last wednesday.
torn ACL.
not bad enough to operate on at this point.

bummer. will the muscles make up for it, or will it be unstable?


Being that I'm in good shape with life long strong legs it's looking
positive.
have to get some more snow to find out more.
I did ski with the kids the following Sat. .