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Mountaineering boots on nordic skis
Are there any bindings available to fit plastic double boots on nordic skis
(for approaches to climbs), rather than having to carry climbing boots and wear cross country boots? The only bindings I can find for mountaineering boots are Silvretta 500 on AT skis. Roy. |
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I know that in Richard Weber's book about skiing to the North Pole &
back, he talks about using bindings like that, and I'm pretty sure he mentioned the brand name as well. Unfortunately, I don't have a copy of the book here, so I can't look it up for you. Good luck finding something that works. Colin |
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Are there any bindings available to fit plastic double boots on nordic skis
(for approaches to climbs), rather than having to carry climbing boots and wear cross country boots? Some winter hikers I knew in New England swore by the Scarpa T2s & T3s -- i.e. a ski boot that's also suitable for mountaineering. There's a dated but relevant thread he http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-an...?msg_id=0001PY you could also post on rec.skiing.backcountry |
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In article , "Roy" roy wrote:
Are there any bindings available to fit plastic double boots on nordic skis (for approaches to climbs), rather than having to carry climbing boots and wear cross country boots? The only bindings I can find for mountaineering boots are Silvretta 500 on AT skis. Roy. If you haven't checked out rec.skiing.backcountry already you might post this question there. I'll bet you'll get more responses. Ralph Thornton ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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In article , Roy roy wrote: Are there any bindings available to fit plastic double boots on nordic skis (for approaches to climbs), rather than having to carry climbing boots and wear cross country boots? The only bindings I can find for mountaineering boots are Silvretta 500 on AT skis. _ I'm having a blast with my Silveretta 500's on very short Alpina X-terrain waxless skis and mountaineering boots, but that rig is probably over kill for want you want. _ There are several very simple bindings that meet your requirements. Very hard to find in NA though, I would try some of the European sites. Stubai makes one http://www.yuccadune.com/product620.html Don't expect to make either turns or much speed on it though. This may be heresy, but if you really look at the issues of speed, complexity, cost and weight, snowshoes almost always win out in the long run. Skis are a lot more fun, but they are heavier and ultimately slower particularly if you get skis beefy enough to do more than survival kick turns on the way down. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRBB9LGTWTAjn5N/lAQEaGAQAk1z5XLU0XYHfiqOWfRPchCd/dah9SKol BoY9EFkffwwj4554yH4NP0MY62wrOBDpJ0Ojz+WeUZAYFQ1CRx DvhGDTYimxv0IA kWd+e3520CGQVawoDxvR95c+JlOn+UUZ9QZ5QJvEe4hxBa94yB TEjG+a5W8hDTHL l2uIFb/6tQk= =J1QO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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"Roy" roy wrote in message ... Are there any bindings available to fit plastic double boots on nordic skis (for approaches to climbs), rather than having to carry climbing boots and wear cross country boots? The only bindings I can find for mountaineering boots are Silvretta 500 on AT skis. Roy. Thanks for the suggestions folks. At the moment it's looking like 500s on tele or AT skis or those dinky little Figle thinks. Roy. |
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.. This may be heresy, but if you really look at the issues of speed, complexity, cost and weight, snowshoes almost always win out in the long run. Skis are a lot more fun, but they are heavier and ultimately slower particularly if you get skis beefy enough to do more than survival kick turns on the way down. So when trying to get from point A to point B as fast as possible you would choose snow shoes over skis? Interesting. I might choose snow shoes over alpine skis that do not allow the heel to release but otherwise........ |
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In article .com, xcwhite wrote: . This may be heresy, but if you really look at the issues of speed, complexity, cost and weight, snowshoes almost always win out in the long run. Skis are a lot more fun, but they are heavier and ultimately slower particularly if you get skis beefy enough to do more than survival kick turns on the way down. So when trying to get from point A to point B as fast as possible you would choose snow shoes over skis? Interesting. I might choose snow shoes over alpine skis that do not allow the heel to release but otherwise........ _ If it involves a significant amount of steep climbing on unpacked ungroomed snow, the answer is yes snowshoes are faster. If it's mostly flat ground skis can be faster. There is a reason snowshoes are banned from Rando Mountaineering races. Races up/down mountains where both snowshoers and skiers compete are generally won by snowshoers. ( i.e. The Billy Dutton Up/Down race at Squaw Valley). _ If you're also hauling along all gear needed for an ice climb, snowshoes generally win just on the weight factor. _ Booker C. Bense -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBRBnstWTWTAjn5N/lAQHtPQP/VB5GZx6MAgYMF2Dho2/ttnac3JoTsSpC Y3qhYnFgliOFkIx14zUefniQVR73gLEgNaU2UiDwf/rgM10mW/h7HGFWdcUcamzk A11S2T9VcF7cVoQhftJ7/54b+JIgbyygfl/CUSx6+bc6wGsOjM7ROoFwuMU5KTxn ckSxdJeMKoo= =JrjG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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I think you underestimate how light ski gear can be. An ice climber
uses plastic boots so that there is no weight advantage with foot wear. There is randonee ski gear out there that rivals the weight of a set of snow shoes needed to carry a large amount of gear. Ultimately, it depends on how well you ski. So for a typical Randonee Race with 5,000 ft. of elevation gain and loss, you would choose snow shoes over randonee gear? Top level rando racers complete these races in under two hours on skis and you are saying they would be faster on snowshoes? The problem with snowshoes is not on the ups but on the downs. A human cannot run downhill at 30 to 40 mph. If the up is an ungroomed trail and very steep, skis can still be faster since the skier can z up the slope where as the snow shoes must post hole straight up (much slower on 30 to 40 degree slopes). Snow shoes are not a good choice traverses of steep slopes especially larger snow shoes. I am not familiar with the Billy Dutton Up/Down race at Squaw but America's uphill in Aspen is often a toss up between skiers on lightweight cross country gear with skins and show shoers and there is no downhill. The slim weight advantage gained from snow shoes does not make up for their speed going down even including the time it takes to remove skins from skis (if needed). |
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