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Vino
Well, geez, I went on vacation and left a big cat fight !! hahahahaha
someone else said it best. I view the people on here as I would a friend I work out with. We talk about the TDFrance, doping, biking, training, wax, skiing, snow, rollerskiing etc. All topics but politics and family are OK to talk about during a workout together. Same goes for here with me. People who patrol the newsgroup and tell me to shut up should move themselves over to rec.running or rec.biking where people like to ARGUE and be rude to each other. I was a smart ass above, for sure, but come on people, lets talk about ENDURANCE sports in general in the summer some !! only 3-4 months to snow. Jkal. |
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Vino
Hey this is the big thread of the summer. It even pulled Tegeder out
of the woodwork. Jay W |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
To our two Jays:
Are you all right, did anyone we know get hurt when that bridge fell down? Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
On Aug 4, 4:07 am, Terje Mathisen
wrote: To our two Jays: Are you all right, did anyone we know get hurt when that bridge fell down? Terje -- - "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" I doubt anyone here knew him, but Julie and I lost a friend. Jay |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
On Aug 6, 11:09 am, "Bjorn A. Payne Diaz"
wrote: I doubt anyone here knew him, but Julie and I lost a friend. I guess I could be more specific. Pat Holmes, a former co-worker of Julie's at Roseville HS. We used to get together for dinner, but with kids and their move to Mounds View, we lost contact. BTW, (to bring it back to skiing) I talked with former Coach John Strand at the visitation. I was suggesting that snowmaking may not solve the skiing problems since it may not be cold enough to make snow for a good chunk of the winter in the future. Last Dec we had a quick cold snap followed by a lot of warmth and rain. He seemed to agree. Jay |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
Sorry for the loss Jay. I was wondering the same after the accident.
To bring it back to skiing again though --- you are right, it might be too warm for snowmaking in the Twin Cities area, BUT I am totally surprised a "ski tunnel" like in Sweden and Finland hasn't popped up yet. Private donations, sponsors, vendors, and yearly memberships surely might make it a worthwhile money maker (or at least break even?) There seem to be soooooooo many skiers from your area who travel travel travel... How many times have you skied your brains out on your own self packed 1-2km loop ?? JKal. |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
On Aug 7, 2:11 pm, "32 degrees" wrote:
Sorry for the loss Jay. I was wondering the same after the accident. To bring it back to skiing again though --- you are right, it might be too warm for snowmaking in the Twin Cities area, BUT I am totally surprised a "ski tunnel" like in Sweden and Finland hasn't popped up yet. Private donations, sponsors, vendors, and yearly memberships surely might make it a worthwhile money maker (or at least break even?) There seem to be soooooooo many skiers from your area who travel travel travel... How many times have you skied your brains out on your own self packed 1-2km loop ?? JKal. Skiing the 1-2 km loops is like doing laps in the pool. When I was finally able to ski a 1/2 loop on a local golf course (at 0 F) last winter, it was really easy to do a 2 hr workout compared to skiing "the loop." The main benefit of the artificial snow is the consistent grooming, but it also brings skiers together, so it's really a social meeting. I think the local skiers would groan about skiing in a tunnel. Yes, it would be welcome as a way to gain conditioning, but it's hard to do loops and have motivation for conditioning when you're uncertain if the races are going to have enough snow to be run. I think most skiers are doing more running and cycling, and just skiing when the condtions turn good. We need to get NASA to send up the shuttles with ping-pong balls or something that shadows the earth from the sun. It just seems like there needs to be a big fix...a global fix applied soon. Jay |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
We need to get NASA to send up the shuttles with ping-pong balls or something that shadows the earth from the sun. . .... or a cool nanotech polymer that matches snow's friction and structure at 80F. |
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Ski Tunnel
On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:46:16 -0000, "Bjorn A. Payne Diaz"
wrote: Skiing the 1-2 km loops is like doing laps in the pool. When I was finally able to ski a 1/2 loop on a local golf course (at 0 F) last winter, it was really easy to do a 2 hr workout compared to skiing "the loop." The main benefit of the artificial snow is the consistent grooming, but it also brings skiers together, so it's really a social meeting. I think the local skiers would groan about skiing in a tunnel. Yes, it would be welcome as a way to gain conditioning, but it's hard to do loops and have motivation for conditioning when you're uncertain if the races are going to have enough snow to be run. I think most skiers are doing more running and cycling, and just skiing when the condtions turn good. If the weather is right, I ski on weekends in the winter. If there was a ski tunnel in my city, I'd probably ski once a weekend and once or twice a week midweek. An MP3 player would be key. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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Did any skiers get trapped in the Twin Cities bridge collapse?
Jay,
As you know, I live 150 miles north of you, on Lake Superior, right in the heart of 'big snow country' for the midwest. I've been lucky enough to have lived here all my 50 years. It sure seems like there is less snow every year and the ski season is getting shorter and shorter. While 50 years isn't much of a measurement compared to the age of mankind, it is easy to see changes looking back over my life span. Lake Superior is down over 12". That is a huge amount of water. Where did it all go? Gave up on my back yard garden, with the drought, it is so dry that the dirt is like dust. My maple trees seem to be drying up and dying, along with a few white pines too. Tracts of land are being sub-divided smaller and smaller, for more and more homes and vacation homes. Much more traffic. Normally we get 'lake effect' snow up here. This year there was nothing, until two freak blizzards in April. It looked to have been perfect for the 'lake effect' snow all winter. Lake Superior was not iced over and temps were about 20 degrees F. Yet nothing. I got my engineering degree from Michigan Tech University over in Houghton and was there the year the record snow fall was set at about 358". This year, when I went up to Houghton for the Nationals, they were scraping snow off parking lots to try and hold a race on about 2" of snow, dirt and leaves. My parents lived here all their life too. Society is much different than the way they lived. For a vacation, they drove over to Duluth once or twice a year. That is 60 miles one way. Maybe went to Mpls every five years, a really big event for them. Now people drive to work every day 60 miles each way. We drive long distances to race every weekend and train. People don't want to change their lifestyle. I know I don't want to give up the freedom to drive every where. I'm no scientist, but I'd guess that we're changing the environment so much that it is just going to keep getting warmer and warmer. -- Paul Haltvick "Bjorn A. Payne Diaz" wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 7, 2:11 pm, "32 degrees" wrote: We need to get NASA to send up the shuttles with ping-pong balls or something that shadows the earth from the sun. It just seems like there needs to be a big fix...a global fix applied soon. Jay |
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