Flat Light Goggles

I have used a pair of Oakley A Frame goggles with VR-28 lenses for the last
few years. They rocked, fitted as if they were made just for me, never
fogged, and were indestrucible (so I thought). Unfortunately they were
broken by a friend who borrowed them.

So I am looking for a new pair for this season. I only use goggles when
the weather is poor - snowing, cloudy etc. Does anyone know which is the
best lens to cope with these conditions? (I wear sunnies when the weather
is nice)

I am thinking about getting the new Oakley Wisdom goggles with "High
Intensity Blue" lenses. Does anyone have any experience of these? I can't
find anything on the oakley website about them, but there is uk goggle
store website where they are for sale which displays all of the properties
of oakley lenses http://www.geared-up.co.uk/lenses.htm (looks like it was
ripped from the oakley site anyway). They are meant to offer High Contrast
in Flat to Low light conditions.

I've tried goggles by Bolle and Smith, but they just don't seem to be as
good as the Oakley range. This is quite an important decision for me as
they cost about £110. Any comments welcomed.

Thanks
Ste

Daeus wrote:
I have used a pair of Oakley A Frame goggles with VR-28 lenses for the last
few years. They rocked, fitted as if they were made just for me, never
fogged, and were indestrucible (so I thought). Unfortunately they were
broken by a friend who borrowed them.

So I am looking for a new pair for this season. I only use goggles when
the weather is poor - snowing, cloudy etc. Does anyone know which is the
best lens to cope with these conditions? (I wear sunnies when the weather
is nice)

I am thinking about getting the new Oakley Wisdom goggles with "High
Intensity Blue" lenses. Does anyone have any experience of these? I can't
find anything on the oakley website about them, but there is uk goggle
store website where they are for sale which displays all of the properties
of oakley lenses http://www.geared-up.co.uk/lenses.htm (looks like it was
ripped from the oakley site anyway). They are meant to offer High Contrast
in Flat to Low light conditions.

I've tried goggles by Bolle and Smith, but they just don't seem to be as
good as the Oakley range. This is quite an important decision for me as
they cost about £110. Any comments welcomed.

Thanks
Ste
£110 on goggles? That seems a bit steep. I've always bought Smith and
found them fine in flat light, and I have never spent anything like this
amount. Can't recall the exact cost, but something in the region of a
1/3 to 1/2 the price of Oakleys. I thought Bolle were less expensive
than Oakleys too? The Smiths have never fogged and give good definition
in low light. I did borrow a pair of Oakleys once (don't know the style,
but they had yellow lenses) and found them to be not as good as the
Smith for flat light.

I tend to wear goggles all the time (when I'm skiing I mean, they tend
to get fogged if you wear them in the bath). Can anyone recommend a
make/lens for bright conditions? Bear in mind I am a skin flint and will
be mildly shocked if I have to fork over 3 figures (GBP or Euro).

I bought a pair of Oakley A frames last year and I found them
absolutely superb for both snowy/cloudy conditions and when the sun
was out (best performance here). They have a blue frame with Iridium
lenses (They are reflective on the outside).

Furthermore, as I am as tight as a ducks butt, I bought them from a
bloke in a pub who was advertising them through Loot for £40. A risk I
know but it paid off. They were new and in bloody good condition
although the box was slightly worn and were not scratched in any way.

Here's the vain part of my message: All my mates were jealous!

In terms of design, I only like Oakleys really, all other manufactuers
dont seem to manufacture goggles that are as pleasing on the eye.
Oops, sorry, the only other goggles that I like are by Adidas.

Hope that helps

Djuro

Steve Haigh wrote in message ...
Daeus wrote:
I have used a pair of Oakley A Frame goggles with VR-28 lenses for the last
few years. They rocked, fitted as if they were made just for me, never
fogged, and were indestrucible (so I thought). Unfortunately they were
broken by a friend who borrowed them.

So I am looking for a new pair for this season. I only use goggles when
the weather is poor - snowing, cloudy etc. Does anyone know which is the
best lens to cope with these conditions? (I wear sunnies when the weather
is nice)

I am thinking about getting the new Oakley Wisdom goggles with "High
Intensity Blue" lenses. Does anyone have any experience of these? I can't
find anything on the oakley website about them, but there is uk goggle
store website where they are for sale which displays all of the properties
of oakley lenses http://www.geared-up.co.uk/lenses.htm (looks like it was
ripped from the oakley site anyway). They are meant to offer High Contrast
in Flat to Low light conditions.

I've tried goggles by Bolle and Smith, but they just don't seem to be as
good as the Oakley range. This is quite an important decision for me as
they cost about £110. Any comments welcomed.

Thanks
Ste
£110 on goggles? That seems a bit steep. I've always bought Smith and
found them fine in flat light, and I have never spent anything like this
amount. Can't recall the exact cost, but something in the region of a
1/3 to 1/2 the price of Oakleys. I thought Bolle were less expensive
than Oakleys too? The Smiths have never fogged and give good definition
in low light. I did borrow a pair of Oakleys once (don't know the style,
but they had yellow lenses) and found them to be not as good as the
Smith for flat light.

I tend to wear goggles all the time (when I'm skiing I mean, they tend
to get fogged if you wear them in the bath). Can anyone recommend a
make/lens for bright conditions? Bear in mind I am a skin flint and will
be mildly shocked if I have to fork over 3 figures (GBP or Euro).

Djuro wrote:
I bought a pair of Oakley A frames last year and I found them
absolutely superb for both snowy/cloudy conditions and when the sun
was out (best performance here). They have a blue frame with Iridium
lenses (They are reflective on the outside).
Really? I always assumed that a lens that was good in poor visibility
would be too bright for sunny conditions. If one lens really can cope
with both even I would consider parting with a larger fee.

Furthermore, as I am as tight as a ducks butt, I bought them from a
bloke in a pub who was advertising them through Loot for £40. A risk I
know but it paid off. They were new and in bloody good condition
although the box was slightly worn and were not scratched in any way.
You can get 7 years for receiving you know:-)

Here's the vain part of my message: All my mates were jealous!

In terms of design, I only like Oakleys really, all other manufactuers
dont seem to manufacture goggles that are as pleasing on the eye.
Oops, sorry, the only other goggles that I like are by Adidas.
Tight as I am I do like the look of the Adidas goggles, I *think* they
are cheaper than Oakley too. I tried a pair on and quite liked the fit
and the visibility.

On 13/11/2003 15:34, in article , "Steve
Haigh" wrote:


Tight as I am I do like the look of the Adidas goggles, I *think* they
are cheaper than Oakley too. I tried a pair on and quite liked the fit
and the visibility.


I've a friend who has some Adidas goggles, they seem to scratch very easily
and I've been thinking he's just a fashion victim who ought to have bought
some Oakleys or similar.

My girlfriend bought some Scott goggles recently after trying every goggle
brand in the world (that's how it felt trailing round every ski shop in the
Alpes anyway). She reckons the fit and bridge shapes vary massively and for
her only the Scott work. I personally have some Smiths and some Oakleys.

Ian

"Ian Spare" wrote in message
...

My girlfriend bought some Scott goggles recently after trying every goggle
brand in the world (that's how it felt trailing round every ski shop in
the
Alpes anyway).

Crikey, imagine how you'd have felt if you'd trailed round every ski shop in
the Alpen and Alpi as well!

I'll fetch my coat.
___
Michael MacClancy

"Steve Haigh" wrote in message
...
Djuro wrote:
I bought a pair of Oakley A frames last year and I found them
absolutely superb for both snowy/cloudy conditions and when the sun
was out (best performance here). They have a blue frame with Iridium
lenses (They are reflective on the outside).
Really? I always assumed that a lens that was good in poor visibility
would be too bright for sunny conditions. If one lens really can cope
with both even I would consider parting with a larger fee.

I bought my goggles a while ago, but the Oakley Persimon (Orangy colour)
lenses where
the best I tried and improved contrast in low light compared to a clear
lensel. I have
another pair with a dark tint for spring but don't end up using them very
much.

--
Neil Swingler

I do not understand, surely flat goggles are usually called sunglasses?

Please explain!

Daeus wrote:

So I am looking for a new pair for this season. I only use goggles when
the weather is poor - snowing, cloudy etc. Does anyone know which is the
best lens to cope with these conditions? (I wear sunnies when the weather
is nice)


The most important thing for skiing in flat light is good balance. The
enables you to concentrate on any reference points you have and not on
the snow beneath your feet. I would suggest, that if you are not able
to ski 30+ days in a season, that you consider using some of the money
you were going to spend on expensive googles and buy a balance board
instead. Use this in a room, with the lights turned as much as you can,
and I'm sure you will find that your skiing, expecially in marginal
conditions, improves.

In message , David
Off writes

The most important thing for skiing in flat light is good balance. The
enables you to concentrate on any reference points you have and not on
the snow beneath your feet. I would suggest, that if you are not able
to ski 30+ days in a season, that you consider using some of the money
you were going to spend on expensive googles and buy a balance board
instead. Use this in a room, with

A physio advised me that if money's an object, buy a 30-35 cm cube of
furniture foam instead, it's much cheaper and just as difficult to
balance on.
Once you can stand on it, try standing on one foot, and with your eyes
shut, and in a variety of Ministry of Silly Walks positions.

If you have children, they'll be much better at it than you.
--
Sue ];(