Fischer Centrix Classic Size Availability? Etc.

I generally am a size 10 USA. I just received two pair of Fischer Centrix
Classic boots, a 43 and a 44.

The sizing chart included in the package references a size between 43 and
44. That might be best for me, but the 44 will work.

No mention of whether the in-between size is actually made and available at
the Fischer site. Gear West, where I bought these boots do not have the
in-between size.

Does anyone know if this boot is offered in other than full size increments?
If available where can I find them?

The boot seems more substantial than the classic Solomon and Alpina boots
that I have and use. Better sealed against wet, and it does feel like I "sit
in them" more than other boots.

I have really terrible feet and am forever looking for a boot that helps me.
I only wish that someone made a classic boot with a stiffer sole that did
not have a high articulated cuff as the combi's do. Alpina has a classic
weighted combi pursuit boot, but it has the flexible classical sole. Many
skiers seem to have metatarsal problems and a stiff sole under the forefoot
helps take the stress off those joints. You lose some feel with a sole like
that, but when your feet are killing you there isn't much "touch" anyway.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

Gary,

I can't help you on the size thing, but one comment on the metataral
aches. I used to have a lot of problems with my toes, ball of my foot
and shins getting very sore when I skied classic. I changed to Carbons
last year, and - after reteaching myself how to stride - a lot less
pain. The reason, I think, may have less to do with the boot, and more
to do with me relaxing my forefoot and rolling thru the stride more.

Marsh Jones
New Brighton, MN

Gary Jacobson wrote:
I generally am a size 10 USA. I just received two pair of Fischer Centrix
Classic boots, a 43 and a 44.

The sizing chart included in the package references a size between 43 and
44. That might be best for me, but the 44 will work.

No mention of whether the in-between size is actually made and available at
the Fischer site. Gear West, where I bought these boots do not have the
in-between size.

Does anyone know if this boot is offered in other than full size increments?
If available where can I find them?

The boot seems more substantial than the classic Solomon and Alpina boots
that I have and use. Better sealed against wet, and it does feel like I "sit
in them" more than other boots.

I have really terrible feet and am forever looking for a boot that helps me.
I only wish that someone made a classic boot with a stiffer sole that did
not have a high articulated cuff as the combi's do. Alpina has a classic
weighted combi pursuit boot, but it has the flexible classical sole. Many
skiers seem to have metatarsal problems and a stiff sole under the forefoot
helps take the stress off those joints. You lose some feel with a sole like
that, but when your feet are killing you there isn't much "touch" anyway.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

Very interesting. Last year towards the end of the season I developed
horrible shin pain when striding. Never happened before.
I had my great toes operated on a few years prior- Arthritis cleaned out and
other things like that. The doc said that my gait would be off for a couple
of years, as I was going to be able to push off with my toes after years of
not being able to. He said to expect pain and al kinds of minor problems. So
when this problem emerged last spring I just figured it was just another
idiosyncratic aftermath of surgery.

I do have to think about relaxing my feet more. One reason I want the "in
between" size of boot is because I began to think that using an oversized
boot, which I did for many years, created so much slop that I had to use my
lttle foot muscles to control things more. The 44 Fischers fit like my last
"sloppy" classical boot, and I want something a bit more snug (43.5), but
not so snug that the tops put pressure on my big toes.(43) I think most
skiers would be happy with the way the 43 fits me, but I need a bit of extra
room.

Maybe I'll just use a "sizing" insole to take up a bit of space in the 44 if
the mid-size is unavailable.

As I talk to skiers in their 40s who have a lot of classical skiing behind
them I learn that painful metatarsals are not uncommon. I also think that
classic roller skiing 10 zillion K's through the years wasn't the greatest
thing for me.

I will consider the technique issue, as that can always be improved. Thanks

Getting old...
Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY



"Marsh Jones" wrote in message
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Gary,

I can't help you on the size thing, but one comment on the metatarsal
aches. I used to have a lot of problems with my toes, ball of my foot
and shins getting very sore when I skied classic. I changed to Carbons
last year, and - after reteaching myself how to stride - a lot less
pain. The reason, I think, may have less to do with the boot, and more
to do with me relaxing my forefoot and rolling thru the stride more.

Marsh Jones
New Brighton, MN

Gary Jacobson wrote:
I generally am a size 10 USA. I just received two pair of Fischer
Centrix
Classic boots, a 43 and a 44.

The sizing chart included in the package references a size between 43
and
44. That might be best for me, but the 44 will work.

No mention of whether the in-between size is actually made and available
at
the Fischer site. Gear West, where I bought these boots do not have the
in-between size.

Does anyone know if this boot is offered in other than full size
increments?
If available where can I find them?

The boot seems more substantial than the classic Solomon and Alpina
boots
that I have and use. Better sealed against wet, and it does feel like I
"sit
in them" more than other boots.

I have really terrible feet and am forever looking for a boot that helps
me.
I only wish that someone made a classic boot with a stiffer sole that
did
not have a high articulated cuff as the combi's do. Alpina has a classic
weighted combi pursuit boot, but it has the flexible classical sole.
Many
skiers seem to have metatarsal problems and a stiff sole under the
forefoot
helps take the stress off those joints. You lose some feel with a sole
like
that, but when your feet are killing you there isn't much "touch"
anyway.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

"Gary Jacobson" wrote in message
...

Getting old...
Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY




"It's not the age - it's the mileage."
- Indiana Jones

"When 900 years old you become, look as good you will, hmmm?"
- Yoda

Sorry Gary, couldn't resist.

-JJ

"Gary Jacobson" wrote in message .. .
Very interesting. Last year towards the end of the season I developed
horrible shin pain when striding. Never happened before.
I had my great toes operated on a few years prior- Arthritis cleaned out and
other things like that. The doc said that my gait would be off for a couple
of years, as I was going to be able to push off with my toes after years of
not being able to. He said to expect pain and al kinds of minor problems. So
when this problem emerged last spring I just figured it was just another
idiosyncratic aftermath of surgery.

I do have to think about relaxing my feet more. One reason I want the "in
between" size of boot is because I began to think that using an oversized
boot, which I did for many years, created so much slop that I had to use my
lttle foot muscles to control things more. The 44 Fischers fit like my last
"sloppy" classical boot, and I want something a bit more snug (43.5), but
not so snug that the tops put pressure on my big toes.(43) I think most
skiers would be happy with the way the 43 fits me, but I need a bit of extra
room.

Maybe I'll just use a "sizing" insole to take up a bit of space in the 44 if
the mid-size is unavailable.

As I talk to skiers in their 40s who have a lot of classical skiing behind
them I learn that painful metatarsals are not uncommon. I also think that
classic roller skiing 10 zillion K's through the years wasn't the greatest
thing for me.

I will consider the technique issue, as that can always be improved. Thanks

Getting old...
Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY



"Marsh Jones" wrote in message
news:AXFcd.200417$wV.31535@attbi_s54...
Gary,

I can't help you on the size thing, but one comment on the metatarsal
aches. I used to have a lot of problems with my toes, ball of my foot
and shins getting very sore when I skied classic. I changed to Carbons
last year, and - after reteaching myself how to stride - a lot less
pain. The reason, I think, may have less to do with the boot, and more
to do with me relaxing my forefoot and rolling thru the stride more.

Marsh Jones
New Brighton, MN

Gary Jacobson wrote:
I generally am a size 10 USA. I just received two pair of Fischer
Centrix
Classic boots, a 43 and a 44.

The sizing chart included in the package references a size between 43
and
44. That might be best for me, but the 44 will work.

No mention of whether the in-between size is actually made and available
at
the Fischer site. Gear West, where I bought these boots do not have the
in-between size.

Does anyone know if this boot is offered in other than full size
increments?
If available where can I find them?

The boot seems more substantial than the classic Solomon and Alpina
boots
that I have and use. Better sealed against wet, and it does feel like I
"sit
in them" more than other boots.

I have really terrible feet and am forever looking for a boot that helps
me.
I only wish that someone made a classic boot with a stiffer sole that
did
not have a high articulated cuff as the combi's do. Alpina has a classic
weighted combi pursuit boot, but it has the flexible classical sole.
Many
skiers seem to have metatarsal problems and a stiff sole under the
forefoot
helps take the stress off those joints. You lose some feel with a sole
like
that, but when your feet are killing you there isn't much "touch"
anyway.

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY






Fischer decided to only make full sizes for the introduction of the
new Centrix line. Part of this descision was based on the fact that
rounded lasts and one piece sole construction are more expensive ways
to make a boot. But also with the tape lacing feature the boot can
adapt to a variety of foot shapes - therefore more adaptability to
different types of feet.

So, no there are no half sizes in Centrix. Incidentally the full size
incremements of Centrix are only millimeters more than size jumps in
other brands even though ares are full size jumps.

To get a good fit it is important not to have your toe up against the
end of the boot. If this is the case, go to the bigger size. If you
need to put in an extra insole to get a better fit that is fine too.

happy skiing!!!

Eli Brown
Fischer XC Race Director

On 18 Oct 2004 04:29:46 -0700, (Eli Brown)
wrote:



the full size incremements of Centrix are
only millimeters more than size jumps in
other brands even though ares are full size jumps.

I don't undertand what this means.

JT

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On 18 Oct 2004 04:29:46 -0700, (Eli Brown)
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the full size incremements of Centrix are
only millimeters more than size jumps in
other brands even though ares are full size jumps.

I don't undertand what this means.

JT

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For example;

Salomon boots go up in 2/3rd size jumps on the european scale. While
Fischer uses full size European scale, our length increments are 1.5mm
longer than a Salomon size jump.

Does this make sense?