Hey anybody know how to soften the ride on my SUV?

Buy a car you moron.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

foot2foot wrote:

Buy a car you moron.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

From the article:

"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."

It's this kind of sloppy journalism that annoys me. Yes, it's factually
true, but it rather elides over the point that the 78% of car passengers
who died in non-rollover accidents are dead nontheless.

It's just a **** poor way to compare the numbers. An innumerate reader
(i.e. most readers) might get the impression that 62% of the 10,694
deaths occurred in SUVs. I don't know whether it's intentionally
misleading or just sloppiness/laziness/innumeracy on the part of the
reporter and editors.

As an analogy, how about comparing two baseball hitters: Player A
strikes out a lot - 68% of his outs are strikeouts. Player B doesn't
strike out very often, only 22% of his outs are strikeouts. What does
this tell you about their batting average or RBI? Squanto, that's what.
Player A could be hitting .325, with 40 homeruns and 110 RBIs while
Player B is struggling to stay above the Mendoza line.

Now, I have no affection for SUVs. In most cases they are unsuited for
the usage that they actually get and are therefore *impractical*
vehicles chosen for their style rather than their functionality. And
the larger ones pose a significant danger to other vehicles on the road.
But let's look at the numbers dispassionately and fairly and not make
accusations that are unfounded.

P.S. Most SUVs I've ridden in have a ride that's already way too soft
and mushy. It's that imprecise float-mobile handling that gets them
into trouble. Compounded by systematically underinflating the tires.

--
//-Walt
//
// There is no Volkl Conspiracy

"Walt" wrote in message

foot2foot wrote:

Buy a car you moron.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

From the article:


The progress of the thread makes it look like I called Walt a moron.
No, the moron is by general example.

"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."

It's this kind of sloppy journalism that annoys me. Yes, it's factually
true, but it rather elides over the point that the 78% of car passengers
who died in non-rollover accidents are dead nontheless.

Well, sure.

It's just a **** poor way to compare the numbers. An innumerate reader
(i.e. most readers) might get the impression that 62% of the 10,694
deaths occurred in SUVs.

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 62 percent of the time.
Cars 22 percent. What more do you need? If you drive an SUV,
and you blow a tire, it'll roll over and kill you and your family.
You think you're *so* safe because you're so way high up in the
air, and you're *so* big and all. But you're not. You're driving
a deathtrap. And by this indication, you're probably a moron too.

I don't know whether it's intentionally
misleading or just sloppiness/laziness/innumeracy on the part of the
reporter and editors.

As an analogy, how about comparing two baseball hitters: Player A
strikes out a lot - 68% of his outs are strikeouts. Player B doesn't
strike out very often, only 22% of his outs are strikeouts. What does
this tell you about their batting average or RBI? Squanto, that's what.
Player A could be hitting .325, with 40 homeruns and 110 RBIs while
Player B is struggling to stay above the Mendoza line.

Now, I have no affection for SUVs. In most cases they are unsuited for
the usage that they actually get and are therefore *impractical*
vehicles chosen for their style rather than their functionality. And
the larger ones pose a significant danger to other vehicles on the road.
But let's look at the numbers dispassionately and fairly and not make
accusations that are unfounded.

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 66 percent of the time.
Cars, 22 percent.

P.S. Most SUVs I've ridden in have a ride that's already way too soft
and mushy. It's that imprecise float-mobile handling that gets them
into trouble. Compounded by systematically underinflating the tires.

Uhm huh. Death trap. Utter stupidity. Eight feet in the air, and
mashed potato suspension.

foot2foot wrote:
"Walt" wrote in message
foot2foot wrote:

much snippage all around

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

From the article:

"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 62 percent of the time.
Cars 22 percent. What more do you need?

No, that's not what the data says. Not even close. Read it again. Pay
attention this time.

If you drive an SUV,
and you blow a tire, it'll roll over and kill you and your family.

Not necessarily true. Far from it, in fact. The vast majority of
blowouts do not cause a roll over, let alone a death.

Uhm huh. Death trap. Utter stupidity. Eight feet in the air, and
mashed potato suspension.

Good grief, foot. You've almost got me defending SUVs. They're not
eight feet tall, they don't roll over in 62% of accidents, blowouts
aren't 100% fatal, and they're not death traps. Yes, they're annoying.
But not as annoying as some things which shall remain nameless at this
point in time.

Oh, one more thing. Here's a bunny with a doughnut on his head:

http://www.syberpunk.com/images/oolo.../meloncake.jpg


--
//-Walt
//
// There is no Volkl Conspiracy

On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 16:24:47 -0500, Walt
wrote:

let's look at the numbers dispassionately and fairly and not make
accusations that are unfounded.

What fun is that? Here's conclusive proof that my Mini is safer than
a pickup truck:
http://www.bridger.us/2002/12/16/Cra...operVsFordF150
The pictures say it all, so there's no need to look at any details, or
discuss the physics involved, or examine the performance of these
vehicles in other tests or of other pickups in the same test. Neener
neener to all pickup drivers (including me when I'm driving my other
ride....)

bw
And besides, I have ABS.

"foot2foot" wrote in message
...

"Walt" wrote in message

foot2foot wrote:

Buy a car you moron.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

From the article:


The progress of the thread makes it look like I called Walt a moron.
No, the moron is by general example.

"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."

...

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 62 percent of the time.

That's not what the stats you quoted above say.

Cars 22 percent. What more do you need? If you drive an SUV,
and you blow a tire, it'll roll over and kill you and your family.
You think you're *so* safe because you're so way high up in the
air, and you're *so* big and all. But you're not. You're driving
a deathtrap. And by this indication, you're probably a moron too.

A truck should be driven like a truck, not a sports car. Perhaps they
should just ban automatic transmissions, power steering and power brakes in
vehicles over a certain size. Or require the drivers to get a Class 1
license with hazmat endorsement.

...

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 66 percent of the time.
Cars, 22 percent.

That's not what the stats say.

...

tm wrote:
Walt wrote:

Oh, one more thing. Here's a bunny with a doughnut on his head:

http://www.syberpunk.com/images/oolo.../meloncake.jpg


Oolong has been dead for years.
http://sokaisha.hp.infoseek.co.jp/passing.htm

Yeah, he's like the Jimi Hendrix of bunnies. His talent wasn't truly
appreciated until he had passed on to that great IHOP in the sky.

--
// Walt
//
// There is no Volkl Conspiracy

"Richard Henry" wrote in message
news:v2Qqd.105253$SW3.85427@fed1read01...

"foot2foot" wrote in message
...

"Walt" wrote in message

foot2foot wrote:

Buy a car you moron.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/...in235030.shtml

From the article:


The progress of the thread makes it look like I called Walt a moron.
No, the moron is by general example.

"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in
rollovers.
And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."

...

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 62 percent of the time.

That's not what the stats you quoted above say.

It's pretty obvious that he has an agenda for some reason and will "kerry"
the figures to try to prove his point.

Cars 22 percent. What more do you need? If you drive an SUV,
and you blow a tire, it'll roll over and kill you and your family.
You think you're *so* safe because you're so way high up in the
air, and you're *so* big and all. But you're not. You're driving
a deathtrap. And by this indication, you're probably a moron too.

A truck should be driven like a truck, not a sports car. Perhaps they
should just ban automatic transmissions, power steering and power brakes
in
vehicles over a certain size. Or require the drivers to get a Class 1
license with hazmat endorsement.

It's like anti lock brakes. You have to unlearn how to drive for the new
technology that makes up for the retards that can't learn.

I've never rolled over and I drove one of those 15 pass. vans when I was
tour guiding that all the luggage and camping gear on the roof and the
entire vehicle actually *did* weigh 10,000 pounds.

When a wreck occurs, SUV's roll over 66 percent of the time.
Cars, 22 percent.

That's not what the stats say.

The argument that I've heard in relation to SUV's is that the people in the
other car are at a disadvantage in an accident. I think they want to put a
spike under the SUV drivers seat that will pop up in an accident so that the
chances of injury will be more equal. This ****ing politically correct,
lowest common denominator **** makes me crazy!

In article ,
Walt wrote:
-
- From the article:
-
-"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
-And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
-percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
-times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."
-

You know, if they simply extended the bumpers further over the
front wheels it would actually be impossible for them to roll over.

Also, new SUV drivers should be taught to drive in a parking lot with
lots of low concrete berms - then the drivers could feel comfortable
and safe, and be guaranteed to learn to drive in one lesson.


Steve

Steve wrote:

In article ,
Walt wrote:
-
- From the article:
-
-"New fatality statistics show 10,694 people died last year in rollovers.
-And sport utility vehicles, by far, had the highest rate, with 62
-percent of all SUV deaths occurring in rollovers. That's nearly three
-times the rate for cars, which is 22 percent."
-

You know, if they simply extended the bumpers further over the
front wheels it would actually be impossible for them to roll over.

They should put knives sticking out from the wheel hubs too.
I can't wait for the Ford Boadicea.

Also, new SUV drivers should be taught to drive in a parking lot with
lots of low concrete berms - then the drivers could feel comfortable
and safe, and be guaranteed to learn to drive in one lesson.

If those SUV drivers would just get their hands forward we'd all be fine.