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centering boot on board
Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe).
Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? For my first two years rode either rentals or bindings that didn't allow you to adjust heel cup anyway. I recently got bindings that did. The Technine instructions tell you to position a point around the front of your ankle over the center of the board. I've ridden 'em that way a couple of times. My daughter's Rossignol binding instructions say to make the heel & toe overhang even. I checked the FAQ and didn't see anything. I'm guessing, it's not a big deal unless I can tell there's a problem. |
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No problem if your turns are balanced, but maybe a consideration when
you have one good side, and one horrible side turning. I balance ball of foot for toeside and center of heel for heelside, which might concur with Technine instructions. |
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Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe).
Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? For my first two years rode either rentals or bindings that didn't allow you to adjust heel cup anyway. I recently got bindings that did. The Technine instructions tell you to position a point around the front of your ankle over the center of the board. I've ridden 'em that way a couple of times. My daughter's Rossignol binding instructions say to make the heel & toe overhang even. I always balance the overhang . (On plates, it's either right at the edge or a little underhang.) I find unbalanced overhang causes problems, and find that I get used to any rebalancing that needs to be done to balance overhang within a run and I never think about iot after that. Mike T ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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oups.com... Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe). Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? For my first two years rode either rentals or bindings that didn't allow you to adjust heel cup anyway. I recently got bindings that did. The Technine instructions tell you to position a point around the front of your ankle over the center of the board. I've ridden 'em that way a couple of times. My daughter's Rossignol binding instructions say to make the heel & toe overhang even. I checked the FAQ and didn't see anything. I'm guessing, it's not a big deal unless I can tell there's a problem. put your board on the floor, strap yourself and tip your board toe and heel side few times. you'll see if your feet are not properly centred one side will go much harder than the other. by looking a boot position it is hard to properly position your fore and aft of binding, that should be a starting position only as different boots, feet size and bindings will act differently. further more depending of the riding style maybe you would like to go a bit of centre since usually riders have one side better than the other, but that you can fine-tune with a highback angle... d'amir |
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In .com myusenetacct@
gmail.com wrote: Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe). Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? It's a little bit of both. But basically, if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't. If you're too far back, you'll have difficulty initiating and controlling turns on the toe-side. It's less of an issue the other way, because you have far more leverage on the heelside edge. But if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't, and you can spend a lot of time (that would be better spent riding) messing around adjusting things with no real improvement. If your draggin boot on one side, you probably need to centre. If you're draggin on both sides you need a wider board or a set of PLS. |
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Mike T wrote:
I always balance the overhang . (On plates, it's either right at the edge or a little underhang.) I find unbalanced overhang causes problems, and find that I get used to any rebalancing that needs to be done to balance overhang within a run and I never think about iot after that. Mike T Mike - so this means you might have front and rear plates centered differently? I was thinking about this the other day as when the snow gets really warm and sloppy I tend to have a lot of braking action under my front foot on heel edge which I never really notice in normal snow conditions. As it seems to manifest itself mostly on heel edge and not toe I wondered if maybe I've been riding off center all this time? mike |
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Mike - so this means you might have front and rear plates centered
differently? Yes. On my Wide 161, one of my binding disks is centered and the other one is pushed all the way toeside. I can't recall which is which... I'd have to go look in the garage... but if I leave 'em both centered I boot out heelside way too easily. #$^$$ Salomon SP6 bindings - no way to slide the heel cup in and out. The straps and HB are so comfy.... but that lack of adjustability sucks. If I rode soft more often, I would have bought something else that afforded the desired adjustability by now. Mike T ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Mike T wrote: Mike - so this means you might have front and rear plates centered differently? Yes. On my Wide 161, one of my binding disks is centered and the other one is pushed all the way toeside. I can't recall which is which... I'd have to go look in the garage... but if I leave 'em both centered I boot out heelside way too easily. #$^$$ Salomon SP6 bindings - no way to slide the heel cup in and out. The straps and HB are so comfy.... but that lack of adjustability sucks. If I rode soft more often, I would have bought something else that afforded the desired adjustability by now. Mike T Those Catek Freerides had movable heelcup and toeramp. Although I would have preferred something hat didn't use screws (that need periodic tightening). Those Salomons have really big heelcups, I dug my SP4 shaped into the snow on heelsides as well. |
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Marcus 'Dr'Dee wrote: In .com myusenetacct@ gmail.com wrote: Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe). Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? It's a little bit of both. But basically, if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't. If you're too far back, you'll have difficulty initiating and controlling turns on the toe-side. It's less of an issue the other way, because you have far more leverage on the heelside edge. But if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't, and you can spend a lot of time (that would be better spent riding) messing around adjusting things with no real improvement. Yea, I just realize that was what was causing me to have some toeside carving issues with my new board, which was wider by nearly a centimeter (from 24.3cm to 25.2cm waist), At first I just assumed it was the board lacking in edge hold, but that didn'tmake sense since my heelsides were still very good. Then I assumed it was my older boots which have softened up noticeably... however when I switched to a stiffer pair (Salomon Malamutes) that helped a little, I still noticed that something didn't feel quite right. Finally, jujst I was planning on building a third strap to add to the bindings, I noticed that my boots were underhanging on the toeside by about .5 cm and rotated my discs so I could shift the bindings towards the toeside about .5 cm. Finally this did the trick into getting the ride to feel more "normal" |
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My last post didn't seem to make it onto the group. I was just saying
that I recently moved to a wider board (from 24.4cm to 25.2cm) and switched my bindings. The ride was ok, but I definitely felt some wrong with my toesides. I assumed it was due to my boots getting to be too soft and so I replaced them with Salomon Malamutes... even after that I didn't quite feel I was getting the leverage I wanted and was considering adding a third strap to my bindings when I noticed that my boots were underhanging by like like half a centimeter. Luckily inserts were exactly at the stance width I wanted so I rotated the discs 90 degrees and then shifted my bindings 1 cm towards the toeside and this dramatically improved the ride. Thinking back, I noticed this issues with the bindings before on my powder board... but I just assumed that was because it was a bit wide (25.5) and not because of the bindings (when I put it on my other freeride board which was 24.0 cm I didn't have these leverage issues). In summary, I am strongly for having a tiny bit of overhang (0.1-0.5cm) with strap bindings (plate bindings is a different issue). Marcus 'Dr'Dee wrote: In .com myusenetacct@ gmail.com wrote: Everything I read says to center your boot on the board (heel to toe). Is this a balance/control thing, or just to minimize toe or heel drag? It's a little bit of both. But basically, if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't. If you're too far back, you'll have difficulty initiating and controlling turns on the toe-side. It's less of an issue the other way, because you have far more leverage on the heelside edge. But if it doesn't feel wrong, it probably isn't, and you can spend a lot of time (that would be better spent riding) messing around adjusting things with no real improvement. If your draggin boot on one side, you probably need to centre. If you're draggin on both sides you need a wider board or a set of PLS. |
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