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On Thursday, April 3, 2014 5:34:19 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:

If you had half a brain, you'd know that approaching someone from behind
means you have to consider that they can't see you. That's part of your
responsibliity if you don't want to cause accidents.


Well except that for snowboreders, "behind" is really from the side.

Wow! You actually figured that out! But can you use that knowledge when you ski?




So, there's only one way, your way, to do it?? Pretty stuck in your ways,
aren't you.


That's the efficient, easiest way to do it. People can shuffle in if they want.
At that point I'm already out there.

And the guy tryuing to go up with you is laying on the ground.



I have had idiot skiers plant their poles just as you say, right between my
skis, and right in front of my snowboard. Unfortinately, they aren't the one
knocked down. They are dangerous.


I've had them do that too. But with skis on, feet independent, and poles, it's
not really a problem.

Tell that to all the people I've seen laying on the ground after it was done to
them. Skiers just as often and boarders.



You are probably one of those clowns that uses their pole to push getting off
the lift too. I've sure seen a few of those wipe out their friends.


No. I use both of them. It gets you down the hill and away from the careening
masses. Especially the snowboreders who immediately throw their toys sideways
so they can sit as soon as possible. It's been years since I had to deal with
that though.

It's good of you to admit it.

You must have HORRIBLE snowboarders in Utah! All the good riders I ride with
ride the fall line, linking turns as well as the skiers, and there are few
skiers that can keep up with some of them. I guess Washington riders must be
immensely better than you've seen. Oh, that's right, you probably haven't
seen a snowboarder in 20 years. So much for your opinion.


Not 20. But it's been awhile. Can't keep up with???? Wow! You must know some
really slow skiers.


I ride and ski with skiers and snowboarders regularly, and we have none of
the problems you fantasize about. And we all have a great time together.


Apparently Alta, the legal system, and forest service disagree with you. I
agree with them.

And that make ME wrong????


Which says more about you than me. You really are a bitter, angry bigoted old
man. I sure hope I am never like you.


forest service etc. If I'm old, what does that make you?

At least I still skiing and riding. How many times have you been up this season
old man?

At least I can rest assured I will never see you on the slopes. I wonder who
you whine about at the golf course.


That's true. You've mentioned how slow you ski. So you probably won't.

You seriously need to work on your reading comprehension.

Or go somewhere other than the bunny slopes to see snowboarders.

"Bob F" wrote:


The only real reason ski areas ban snowboarders is because it's an easy way to
get rid of half of the teenage boys, who are the real problem they are
complaining about.

I think ski areas that have snowboarders ban because they don't want to
make terrain parks that appeal mainly to boarders.

There are some boarders who have a big skateboarding background, but
others who I would go to resorts or do backcountry stuff, (they wore
snowshoes for ascending) just grew up boarding rather than skiing. They
like terrain parks, but they also looking for a good ride down a run.
Much like the skiers who grew up racing, look at the sport differently,
than those who grew up hotdogging, or mainly focus on jumps, and or powder
stashes.

Much like my boarder friends will look at a run and the lines much
differently than me, a Tele skier. I look at run, and the the hypothetical
fall line differently than an Alpine skier...

This from a 65 yo skier/snowboarder.

I think it is important to master all forms of slushing down the mountain,
even though my boarding is definitely my weakest discipline.

On 4/3/14 5:49 PM, wrote:
I think it is important to master all forms of slushing down the mountain,
even though my boarding is definitely my weakest discipline.

I like a Flexi-FLier for those nasty extra-firm days, a toboggan when
it's softer, and a tractor inner tube for deep fresh.
Yet those SOBs at the resort have posted signs saying "No Sleds!" What
kind of discrimination is that!?
Let's start a petition!

On Thu, 3 Apr 2014 16:34:19 -0700, "Bob F" wrote
this crap:

Bob F wrote:

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 12:19:13 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:

Now if only skiers could come to understand that a snowboarders blind spot is
not opposite their direction of travel, but on the side they are facing away
from.


Good one. Now it's up to the skier to avoid that which can't see where it's
going. And maybe they should move out of the way faster too when
knuckledraggers can't stop?

If you had half a brain, you'd know that approaching someone from behind means
you have to consider that they can't see you. That's part of your responsibliity
if you don't want to cause accidents.

Nobody wants to cause an accident. But snoreboarders are so slow and
erratic that when you are approaching from behind you can't figger out
what they are going to do. You try to give them a wide berth but
there are other people around that you also have to avoid.


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comadrejo wrote:
"Bob F" wrote:


The only real reason ski areas ban snowboarders is because it's an
easy way to get rid of half of the teenage boys, who are the real
problem they are complaining about.

I think ski areas that have snowboarders ban because they don't want
to make terrain parks that appeal mainly to boarders.

There are probably more skiers in the park at Stevens than snowboarders a lot of
the time.


There are some boarders who have a big skateboarding background, but
others who I would go to resorts or do backcountry stuff, (they wore
snowshoes for ascending) just grew up boarding rather than skiing.
They like terrain parks, but they also looking for a good ride down a
run.
Much like the skiers who grew up racing, look at the sport
differently, than those who grew up hotdogging, or mainly focus on
jumps, and or powder stashes.

Much like my boarder friends will look at a run and the lines much
differently than me, a Tele skier. I look at run, and the the
hypothetical fall line differently than an Alpine skier...

I tend to look at runs more like a skier even when I'm on a snowboard. And I
like the bumps, although they are more of a challenge still, on the board.


This from a 65 yo skier/snowboarder.

I think it is important to master all forms of slushing down the
mountain, even though my boarding is definitely my weakest discipline.

I've been there. Then I got better. I'm still a better skier on the bumps. And
I'm probably a better rider on the Cascade Crud, and deep powder.

Some years ago, I could ski a zipperline through the bumps doing tele turns on
my randonee gear. Does that count?

I watched a guy from the chair doing fast tele turns through the bumps a couple
weeks ago. I thought he was really good. Then I realized he was going backwards!

lal_truckee wrote:
On 4/3/14 5:49 PM, wrote:
I think it is important to master all forms of slushing down the mountain,
even though my boarding is definitely my weakest discipline.

I like a Flexi-FLier for those nasty extra-firm days, a toboggan when
it's softer, and a tractor inner tube for deep fresh.
Yet those SOBs at the resort have posted signs saying "No Sleds!" What
kind of discrimination is that!?
Let's start a petition!

Well, make sure to scotchguard your petition, and wear some moon boots when
you deliver it, to be one with inner tubers and sled fanatics.

You are forgetting a very powerful group in mountain transport, much more
powerful than boarders, in some ways they control one or two states
legislatures, (Montana is one of them) they can even overturned Federal
Gov't decisions on Federal Lands... They are also just as or even more
obnoxious than many boarders.... Snowmobilers...

On 04/03/2014 11:19 AM, Bob F wrote:

The Real Bev wrote:
On 04/02/2014 08:16 AM, pigo wrote:

http://www.komonews.com/sports/Fores...253427231.html

Can anyone explain why ALL the resorts less 3 are not enough for
these assholes?

A lot of boarders don't even seem to understand the concept of "blind
spot", which makes them even more dangerous -- as dangerous as those
who do understand but just don't care.

Now if only skiers could come to understand that a snowboarders blind spot is
not opposite their direction of travel, but on the side they are facing away
from.

The big danger is when they are going faster than me and cut back in
front of me. If I'm lucky I can turn parallel with their direction of
travel. So far, so good.

And wouldn't it be nice if they could learn not to plant their poles just
anywhere out to the side of themselves while loading the lifts, but to make sure
they only place them right next to their own skis. Or don't use them at all, and
just shuffle in with their feet like I do on skis.

I do a combination of both since most of the time there isn't really
enough snow in the takeoff area to permit free motion. If the white
stuff is dendrex, I feel sorry for the people who have to ski on it.
And yes, I keep my poles to myself.

The only real reason ski areas ban snowboarders is because it's an easy way to
get rid of half of the teenage boys, who are the real problem they are
complaining about.

WhatEVerrrr!

This from a 65 yo skier/snowboarder.

I've actually been thinking about taking up boarding as being easier on
the knees once you can stay up without falling over. The idea is
distasteful, but I am nothing if not pragmatic.

--
Cheers, Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"It doesn't get any easier - you just go faster."
-- Greg Lemond

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 6:48:14 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote:
(nothing worth quoting)

But you seem to be avoiding my original, simple question. With ALL resorts allowing the toys, why is it so important that skiers not have just three ski areas to enjoy? What is it that needs it to be EVERY SINGLE SKI AREA?

pigo wrote:
On Thursday, April 3, 2014 6:48:14 PM UTC-6, Bob F wrote: (nothing
worth quoting)

But you seem to be avoiding my original, simple question. With ALL
resorts allowing the toys, why is it so important that skiers not
have just three ski areas to enjoy? What is it that needs it to be
EVERY SINGLE SKI AREA?


If I was responding to a rational person I would detail a response.
But since it ****es you off and makes you more of that wonderful human
you are snowboards should be every where, and when you die ****ed off I
hope somebody replaces your grave marker with a snow board.

On Friday, April 4, 2014 9:32:03 AM UTC-6, downhill wrote:

So what is the problem with 3 areas in the entire country being boardfree? Why is every single area necessary?