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e-mail list/news group
I have gotten two responses from e-mail list members asking that we keep
the e-mail list going, and connected to the news group. If it's just two, I know our administrators would urge me to agree to drop the e-mail list. Not that the interests of two people (one of which started the list, low those many years ago) are not important. And, of course, I will be sad to see the list go away - I've been a member almost from the beginning, and love to get the notes in my e-mail box. If there are more of you out there who really want the list to continue, or, more to the point, if there are any of you who, for some reason, can't read the postings on the news group, please let me know. Otherwise, unless some other person with access to an e-mail list server, who can arrange the porting to and from the group wants to take this over, Hamline will remove the list, and it will be no more. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** |
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wow, I certainly don't want this list to go away. Count me in as a person who really enjoys getting the emails on a daily basis also. Please let me know what to do to have the 'powers that be' reconsider pulling the plug. Thanks..................Jim Cloutier Kenneth Salzberg wrote: I have gotten two responses from e-mail list members asking that we keep the e-mail list going, and connected to the news group. If it's just two, I know our administrators would urge me to agree to drop the e-mail list. Not that the interests of two people (one of which started the list, low those many years ago) are not important. And, of course, I will be sad to see the list go away - I've been a member almost from the beginning, and love to get the notes in my e-mail box. If there are more of you out there who really want the list to continue, or, more to the point, if there are any of you who, for some reason, can't read the postings on the news group, please let me know. Otherwise, unless some other person with access to an e-mail list server, who can arrange the porting to and from the group wants to take this over, Hamline will remove the list, and it will be no more. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** Cloutier Concept & Design 13629 46th Street NE St. Michael, MN 55376 (c) 612.386.3346 www.cc-d.com "If a man does his best, what else is there?" - General George S. Patton (1885-1945) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' --0-1289312971-1108736460=:14274 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii DIV DIVWow, I certainly don't want this list to go away. Count me in as a person who really enjoys getting the emails on a daily basis also. Please let me know what to do to have the 'powers that be' reconsider pulling the plug./DIV DIV /DIV DIVThanks..................Jim CloutierBRBRBIKenneth Salzberg >/I/B wrote:/DIV BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"I have gotten two responses from e-mail list members asking that we keepBRthe e-mail list going, and connected to the news group. If it's just two,BRI know our administrators would urge me to agree to drop the e-mail list.BRNot that the interests of two people (one of which started the list, lowBRthose many years ago) are not important. And, of course, I will be sad toBRsee the list go away - I've been a member almost from the beginning, andBRlove to get the notes in my e-mail box.BRIf there are more of you out there who really want the list to continue,BRor, more to the point, if there are any of you who, for some reason, can'tBRread the postings on the news group, please let me know. Otherwise,BRunless some other person with access to an e-mail list server, who canBRarrange the porting to and from the group wants to take this over, HamlineBRwill remo! ve the list, and it will be no more.BR-KenBRBR*************************************** ********************BRKenneth Salzberg BRHamline University BRSchool of Law (651) 523-2354BR1536 Hewitt Ave.BRSisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104BR***************************************** *************************BRBRBRBRBRBR BR/BLOCKQUOTE/DIVBRBRPFONT face=arialFONT size=1FONT color=#800000STRONGCloutier Concept & DesignBR13629 46th Street NEBRSt. Michael, MN 55376/STRONG/FONT/FONT/FONTFONT face=arialFONT size=1FONT color=#800000STRONGBR(c) 612.386.3346BR/STRONGA href="http://www.cc-d.com/" target=_blankSTRONGFONT color=#003399www.cc-d.com/FONT/STRONG/A/FONT/FONT/FONT/P PFONT face=arialFONT size=1STRONGFONT color=#800000"If a man does his best, what else is there?"/FONT/STRONG BR- General George S. Patton (1885-1945)/FONT/FONT/Pp hr size=1Do you Yahoo!?br Yahoo! Search presents - a href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=30648/*http://movies.yahoo.com/movies/feature/jibjabinaugural.html"Jib Jab's 'Second Term'/a --0-1289312971-1108736460=:14274-- |
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Count me as another who would like the list to continue. I've only
posted a few times but I look at the list just about every day just for ski related info. I'm not sure how to access these postings otherwise. I hope you can continue! On Feb 18, 2005, at 7:03 AM, Kenneth Salzberg wrote: I have gotten two responses from e-mail list members asking that we keep the e-mail list going, and connected to the news group. If it's just two, I know our administrators would urge me to agree to drop the e-mail list. Not that the interests of two people (one of which started the list, low those many years ago) are not important. And, of course, I will be sad to see the list go away - I've been a member almost from the beginning, and love to get the notes in my e-mail box. If there are more of you out there who really want the list to continue, or, more to the point, if there are any of you who, for some reason, can't read the postings on the news group, please let me know. Otherwise, unless some other person with access to an e-mail list server, who can arrange the porting to and from the group wants to take this over, Hamline will remove the list, and it will be no more. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** V Stachura Those are zero's not oh's |
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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Chris Cline wrote:
Hi Ken- Make me number three on the list of people who want to see the newsgroup keep going! I've been subscribed since the pleistocene (1994?), and RSN has been and continues to be a great source of technical advice, a sounding board for issues relating to competition and "skiing for life", and most importantly, a communication vehicle for an extended community of people who share much in common despite all of their differences. I think the remarkable absence of flame wars, and the generally civil way in which differences are discussed is testament to the value of the people who subscribe to this newsgroup, and the value they place upon it. It's up to 4 or 5 by now. One thing I should again explain for any who are confused: the e-mail list ) is ported to the news group (rec.skiing.nordic). As long as the system is working, all the notes to the list appear on the group, and all the notes posted to the group appear as e-mails to the list members. If the list ends, the group will still be there, and, assuming you are willing to use a newsreader (like Google groups), you will be able to read, and respond to, all the traffic. I hope that there's some way to keep the group going, even if the school decides to drop it. I'm a technical simpleton, but would something like a yahoo group work as well? A yahoo group would work just fine, but. . . (we are in the process of doing this for a small e-mail list I've been running for a group of local skiers and hikers who get together every weekend for a training, and talking, and coffee session). The problem is the porting. I have no idea how or if you can arrange that with a Yahoo group. I know that changing the porting service, which I had to do a few years ago, was not easy. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** |
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Tug Hill Tourathon members in New York certainly would like to see this
list continued. It's an excellent source of national and international skier-related items: technical help, race-related messages, where the trails are, what the conditions are, equipment suggestions, etc. For the cross-country skier, novice or expert, it presents a valuable service. CB -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . |
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Ken is talking about the function or option that allows individuals to
receive postings by e-mail (digest or individual), as opposed to reading them via usenet or a web-based newsgroup reader (e.g., google). In other words, the existence of the newsgoup itself is not in question, just one of the methods for seeing posts. The underlying problem is that ISP spam filters using blacklists, especially AOL's, are causing havoc by improperly labeling good email as bad -- either on their own or as the result of a user erroneously reporting it to be spam -- and then blacklisting the domain (or server, if I've got that right). This has been happening to a lot of e-mail newsletters and has required countless hours to try to overcome or get around. Although mislabeling can happen by accident (reporting/bouncing a good email as spam by mistake), a more typical scenario poses the catch-22: if the AOL user were smart enough to figure out how to unsubscribe correctly (and thus not feel the need to report email as spam), then they wouldn't be subscribing to AOL. Gene Chris Cline wrote: Hi Ken- Make me number three on the list of people who want to see the newsgroup keep going! I've been subscribed since the pleistocene (1994?), and RSN has been and continues to be a great source of technical advice, a sounding board for issues relating to competition and "skiing for life", and most importantly, a communication vehicle for an extended community of people who share much in common despite all of their differences. I think the remarkable absence of flame wars, and the generally civil way in which differences are discussed is testament to the value of the people who subscribe to this newsgroup, and the value they place upon it. I hope that there's some way to keep the group going, even if the school decides to drop it. I'm a technical simpleton, but would something like a yahoo group work as well? thanks for your efforts- ~Chris |
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Maybe I misunderstood (if a just posted reply to Chris). Are you
saying, possibly no more usenet? Or just no more sending of posts by email? The former would be bad. Gene Kenneth Salzberg wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Chris Cline wrote: Hi Ken- Make me number three on the list of people who want to see the newsgroup keep going! I've been subscribed since the pleistocene (1994?), and RSN has been and continues to be a great source of technical advice, a sounding board for issues relating to competition and "skiing for life", and most importantly, a communication vehicle for an extended community of people who share much in common despite all of their differences. I think the remarkable absence of flame wars, and the generally civil way in which differences are discussed is testament to the value of the people who subscribe to this newsgroup, and the value they place upon it. It's up to 4 or 5 by now. One thing I should again explain for any who are confused: the e-mail list ) is ported to the news group (rec.skiing.nordic). As long as the system is working, all the notes to the list appear on the group, and all the notes posted to the group appear as e-mails to the list members. If the list ends, the group will still be there, and, assuming you are willing to use a newsreader (like Google groups), you will be able to read, and respond to, all the traffic. I hope that there's some way to keep the group going, even if the school decides to drop it. I'm a technical simpleton, but would something like a yahoo group work as well? A yahoo group would work just fine, but. . . (we are in the process of doing this for a small e-mail list I've been running for a group of local skiers and hikers who get together every weekend for a training, and talking, and coffee session). The problem is the porting. I have no idea how or if you can arrange that with a Yahoo group. I know that changing the porting service, which I had to do a few years ago, was not easy. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** |
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a couple of minor corrections/elaborations:
"Kenneth Salzberg" wrote in message ... It's up to 4 or 5 by now. One thing I should again explain for any who are confused: the e-mail list ) is ported to the news group (rec.skiing.nordic). As long as the system is working, all the notes to the list appear on the group, and all the notes posted to the group appear as e-mails to the list members. If the list ends, the group will still be there, and, assuming you are willing to use a newsreader (like Google groups), you will be able to read, and respond to, all the traffic. Google Groups isn't really a newsreader, but it a way to read news (did that make any sense?). Google bought DejaNews a while back and (being google) is a great way to search USENET (the news groups system's formal internet name) for information that has been posted. Google's primary function here is to archive the newsgroups (oh, and to sell advertising to show when you read USENET through their web interface :-). Being essentially an archiving service, Google is not as up-to-date as other (real) news servers. I don't use Google to read and post because that lack of timelyness makes it practically impossible to carry on a conversation in a news thread - by the time I read a post and try to respond, the thread has gone off in some other direction :-( I *can* see how it could be convenient to use a web interface or to get newsfeeds in digest form (e.g. a day's worth of posts in one big email each day) or as individual emails (one per post) especially for people who aren't sitting in from of an internet connected computer all day. I don't do any of these things because of the "delay" and because I *am* connected to the internet all day long. I hope that there's some way to keep the group going, even if the school decides to drop it. I'm a technical simpleton, but would something like a yahoo group work as well? A yahoo group would work just fine, but. . . (we are in the process of doing this for a small e-mail list I've been running for a group of local skiers and hikers who get together every weekend for a training, and talking, and coffee session). The problem is the porting. I have no idea how or if you can arrange that with a Yahoo group. I know that changing the porting service, which I had to do a few years ago, was not easy. -Ken Setting up an effective new USENET group requires the approval of thousands of individual news server admins. That is, each news server admin receives many requests from new news groups a day. The admin can't carry them all (and probably shouldn't try) so most of the attempts to establish a new USENET group fail. In contrast, Yahoo news groups are relatively easy to set up. That's their strength. Yahoo groups are great for small (geographically, readership, or both) interest groups. My neighborhood in San Jose (about one square mile) uses one to great effect. However, I don't think they are designed to be a relay for USENET. Yahoo is a separate system. Good luck keeping your e-mail list going, Ken. The internet runs on the commitment of people like you (and all the other admins, webmasters, etc ---- you know who you are, Janne! :-). Bob |
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don't worry, Gene. USENET is *not* going away anytime soon.
Bob "Gene Goldenfeld" wrote in message ... Maybe I misunderstood (if a just posted reply to Chris). Are you saying, possibly no more usenet? Or just no more sending of posts by email? The former would be bad. Gene Kenneth Salzberg wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Chris Cline wrote: Hi Ken- Make me number three on the list of people who want to see the newsgroup keep going! I've been subscribed since the pleistocene (1994?), and RSN has been and continues to be a great source of technical advice, a sounding board for issues relating to competition and "skiing for life", and most importantly, a communication vehicle for an extended community of people who share much in common despite all of their differences. I think the remarkable absence of flame wars, and the generally civil way in which differences are discussed is testament to the value of the people who subscribe to this newsgroup, and the value they place upon it. It's up to 4 or 5 by now. One thing I should again explain for any who are confused: the e-mail list ) is ported to the news group (rec.skiing.nordic). As long as the system is working, all the notes to the list appear on the group, and all the notes posted to the group appear as e-mails to the list members. If the list ends, the group will still be there, and, assuming you are willing to use a newsreader (like Google groups), you will be able to read, and respond to, all the traffic. I hope that there's some way to keep the group going, even if the school decides to drop it. I'm a technical simpleton, but would something like a yahoo group work as well? A yahoo group would work just fine, but. . . (we are in the process of doing this for a small e-mail list I've been running for a group of local skiers and hikers who get together every weekend for a training, and talking, and coffee session). The problem is the porting. I have no idea how or if you can arrange that with a Yahoo group. I know that changing the porting service, which I had to do a few years ago, was not easy. -Ken ************************************************** ********* Kenneth Salzberg Hamline University School of Law (651) 523-2354 1536 Hewitt Ave. Sisu Skier - 50K Club St. Paul, MN 55104 ************************************************** **************** |
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