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Old June 2nd 06, 09:51 PM
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(Eugene Miya) wrote in news:4480af47$1@darkstar:

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Elder Kurt Knisely wrote:
I prefer the mature pines, usually the aspens are too close together.
They're all one plant, right?


Bio/botanical trolling, eh?


We were discussing this Sunday near a pure stand of Aspens and gazing at
bear scat, overturned rocks, scraped out deadfall and berry bushes.
Eventually, the pines will take over. And then the beetles or fire...


I skied
while the neighbors snowshoed (dang climbers...).


Americans too lazy to learn to ski. Europeans ski more.


If it keeps warming up and drying out in the mid latitudes, none of us
will be skiing much longer. Hard to imagine that with all the sub zero
nights and the 600" of snow at Xxxx this season.


There's one difference between climbers and skiers. When you look at
a nice pic of a snow covered mountain are you looking for the best
continuous line to ski down the mountain or what rock face you'd climb
(and then rap off)? Dang climbers...something inherently wrong w/
those folks :-)


Is the rock facing S or north?


S.


Bring cavers (troll for Galen in r.b., as if there's lots of non-ater
skiing in FL).



Oh, yet another breed entirely. I still have my old Gibbs Ascenders
from HS.


Frankly, most of the climbers I know prefer not to rap for the
complications it entails. If rapping it is, make it minimal.

To me it's all part of the same activity. I'd asked about the
avalanche hazard first.


Still, there are skiers who climb and there are climbers who ski. Most
will self declare their preferred demise. Which do they do more of each
year? Did they change their lifestyle/employment options by moving
closer to their passion?


"Skiing ends about 50 degrees. Ice climbing starts about 45 degrees.
In between is very interesting ..." --Hooman Aprin


:-)

-K
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Old June 2nd 06, 10:49 PM
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In article ,
Elder Kurt Knisely wrote:
They're all one plant, right?

Bio/botanical trolling, eh?


We were discussing this Sunday near a pure stand of Aspens and gazing at
bear scat, overturned rocks, scraped out deadfall and berry bushes.
Eventually, the pines will take over. And then the beetles or fire...


I wish for the evergreens, but I an cynical/skeptical.

I skied while the neighbors snowshoed (dang climbers...).

Americans too lazy to learn to ski. Europeans ski more.


If it keeps warming up and drying out in the mid latitudes, none of us
will be skiing much longer. Hard to imagine that with all the sub zero
nights and the 600" of snow at Xxxx this season.


Good editing.

There's one difference between climbers and skiers.
(and then rap off)? Dang climbers...something inherently wrong w/
those folks :-)

Bring cavers (troll for Galen in r.b., as if there's lots of non-ater
skiing in FL).


Oh, yet another breed entirely. I still have my old Gibbs Ascenders
from HS.


Galen would cite the inherent superiority of cavers.
He can have them.

Frankly, most of the climbers I know prefer not to rap

....
To me it's all part of the same activity. I'd asked about the
avalanche hazard first.


Still, there are skiers who climb and there are climbers who ski. Most
will self declare their preferred demise. Which do they do more of each
year? Did they change their lifestyle/employment options by moving
closer to their passion?


Ah... is there powder?
I'm not really into spring skiing any more.
Life is too short to not ski powder.
But I will let my friends who are into it ski Mammoth on July 4 and
hot soak in the afternoon. But when spring comes climbing is preferred,
but that excludes domestic issues and spouses.


"Skiing ends about 50 degrees. Ice climbing starts about 45 degrees.
In between is very interesting ..." --Hooman Aprin


:-)



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Old June 3rd 06, 01:49 PM
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Kurt Knisely wrote:
Ed Huesers wrote:
Biggest aspens I ever saw was up the road from Ogdxn

I prefer the mature pines, usually the aspens are too close together.


Well, with it being a ski area, they probably thinned them. They had
huge trunks and no one skied it. One thing nice about aspen is that
there are no tree wells.

They're all one plant, right?


I've heard that before a seen some exposed roots too. They look like
one to me.

It was odd, there was more snow at my place than 3000 vft. above us,
(storm must have missed the High Uintas)?


We camped high one Memorial Day and the storm was way below us. It
didn't even make it up to timberline. Friends all thought we had bad
weather when we got back into town. They suffered.

Just a dusting up the
highway, but we made the best of it. I skied on the light gear and
leathers while the neighbors snowshoed (dang climbers...). Of course
that meant some scrambling up mixed snow/rock routes w/ the skis on my
pack, but they couldn't shoe up it either. Still ended up w/ a ski down
a different route though.


Knowing the terrain helps.

There's one difference between climbers and skiers. When you look at a
nice pic of a snow covered mountain are you looking for the best
continuous line to ski down the mountain or what rock face you'd climb
(and then rap off)? Dang climbers...something inherently wrong w/ those
folks :-)


Heh, then I must not be a climber or a skier. I see the splendor
that the ages have shaped the mountains into.
Oh, and good spots for igloos...

Had some excitement though. There was a fire over the north end of
the mountain I was camping on. I was on the south end a little over a
mile and a half from the fire.


A little too close to the fire for my comfort.


Oh, the wind was blowing directly away from me towards the fire.
I've been on the hill many times and have never seen the wind come from
that direction.
My escape route was downhill, away from the fire and into the
prevailing winds. I would have been able to see the fire if it came up
the mountain on the other side and it would have still been a mile from me.
The helicopter took an hour lunch and knocked off at 5:00 so it
didn't seem to serious.
It was a dry tinder box though and they've put a fire ban on now.

Ed Huesers
Http://www.grandshelters.com
 




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