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Highlights of Lahti Sprints
Our friends at Estonian TV have bits and pieces of the Lahti sprint
finals up: http://etvsport.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=5488 |
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Highlights of Lahti Sprints
THANKS TASSAVA
On Mar 1, 11:46*pm, tassava wrote: Our friends at Estonian TV have bits and pieces of the Lahti sprint finals up:http://etvsport.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=5488 |
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Thanks! At the Swedish TV site they of course focus on Kalla and how,
in a semi-final heat when she was in the lead, a Finnish skier trying to pass on the outside of a curve with plenty of room, skied way too close and put a ski into Kalla's, causing her to fall. I don't know what Kalla said in the interview, but it's interesting to me because it pushes the threshold of accidents vs fairness and when DQs are appropriate. But I guess everyone just usually accepts it and moves on - or gets retribution when needed. You'd hate for someone to lose a WC on something like that. In the men's final, Andy Newell recounts that when he tried to pass Bjorn Lind, the latter cold stared him down - and they're good friends. http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/share...&frameset=true (Sport, Skidor, Langskidor, 3/1 video) rm tassava wrote: Our friends at Estonian TV have bits and pieces of the Lahti sprint finals up: http://etvsport.ee/index.php?0&popup=video&id=5488 |
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Highlights of Lahti Sprints
On 2 maalis, 23:07, wrote:
Thanks! At the Swedish TV site they of course focus on Kalla and how, Of course: she is hot, she is cold, she is everybody's darling in Sweden and in the entire Nordic skiing world. in a semi-final heat when she was in the lead, a Finnish skier trying to The trouble starts when commentators and fans put on their tinted glasses and when skiers of other nationalities no longer have names:-) pass on the outside of a curve with plenty of room, skied way too close and put a ski into Kalla's, causing her to fall. I don't know what Kalla said in the interview, but it's interesting to me because it I believe it was Pirjo Muranen's - née Manninen - pole that sort of got stuck with the binding of Charlotte Kalla's ski. Kalla commented: "That is the kind of thing that just happens in sprints and I am a rather rough racer myself, but it would be nice if I've had my share of bad luck for this season." pushes the threshold of accidents vs fairness and when DQs are appropriate. But I guess everyone just usually accepts it and moves on - or gets retribution when needed. You'd hate for someone to lose a WC on something like that. In the men's final, Andy Newell recounts that when he tried to pass Bjorn Lind, the latter cold stared him down - and they're good friends.http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/share....jsp?d=37591&f... (Sport, Skidor, Langskidor 3/1 video) Eldar Rønning went a bit further earlier this season and gave "a Finnish skier" a good whack on the back with his pole - but it didn't change the latter's opinion of who was right and who was wrong and what was fair and what wasn't... But back to the incident between (in alphabetic order) Kalla and Muranen: IMHO it was a pure racing incident - and not a particularly remarkable or dirty one - and I cannot imagine sprinting without such incidents. If it had been Kalla cutting in from the outside and Muranen refusing or failing to give way, would Kalla's skiing have been called "unfair" or "bold"? Besides, if the experience of the policy of issuing DQs to "unfair" skiers and "free passes" to "wronged" skiers a few seasons ago is anything to go by, it would only mean a step from one murky puddle to another: the "threshold" would still be somewhat arbitrary and there would be speculation about whether certain skiers or certain nationalities were favored or at the very least questions why almost identical incidents would result in different judgements. Anders |
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Highlights of Lahti Sprints
It looked to me like a ski not a pole - or maybe both. I appreciate
what you say. I know in distance running on tracks there is a certain amount of jostling allowed, but in shorter running races around a curve, don't such squeeze tactics often lead to DQs? There have been some cases of DQs this season, I think for Chandra Crawford and maybe one of the US skiers, but the incidents involved seem to occur off camera. I suppose there are some rules posted somewhere about this, but it'd be nice if they'd clarify how they are interpreted for the public. rm Anders wrote: On 2 maalis, 23:07, wrote: Thanks! At the Swedish TV site they of course focus on Kalla and how, Of course: she is hot, she is cold, she is everybody's darling in Sweden and in the entire Nordic skiing world. in a semi-final heat when she was in the lead, a Finnish skier trying to The trouble starts when commentators and fans put on their tinted glasses and when skiers of other nationalities no longer have names:-) pass on the outside of a curve with plenty of room, skied way too close and put a ski into Kalla's, causing her to fall. I don't know what Kalla said in the interview, but it's interesting to me because it I believe it was Pirjo Muranen's - née Manninen - pole that sort of got stuck with the binding of Charlotte Kalla's ski. Kalla commented: "That is the kind of thing that just happens in sprints and I am a rather rough racer myself, but it would be nice if I've had my share of bad luck for this season." pushes the threshold of accidents vs fairness and when DQs are appropriate. But I guess everyone just usually accepts it and moves on - or gets retribution when needed. You'd hate for someone to lose a WC on something like that. In the men's final, Andy Newell recounts that when he tried to pass Bjorn Lind, the latter cold stared him down - and they're good friends.http://svt.se/svt/road/Classic/share....jsp?d=37591&f... (Sport, Skidor, Langskidor 3/1 video) Eldar Rønning went a bit further earlier this season and gave "a Finnish skier" a good whack on the back with his pole - but it didn't change the latter's opinion of who was right and who was wrong and what was fair and what wasn't... But back to the incident between (in alphabetic order) Kalla and Muranen: IMHO it was a pure racing incident - and not a particularly remarkable or dirty one - and I cannot imagine sprinting without such incidents. If it had been Kalla cutting in from the outside and Muranen refusing or failing to give way, would Kalla's skiing have been called "unfair" or "bold"? Besides, if the experience of the policy of issuing DQs to "unfair" skiers and "free passes" to "wronged" skiers a few seasons ago is anything to go by, it would only mean a step from one murky puddle to another: the "threshold" would still be somewhat arbitrary and there would be speculation about whether certain skiers or certain nationalities were favored or at the very least questions why almost identical incidents would result in different judgements. Anders |
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