Jackson (and Utah) mid-trip report

Bob Lee wrote:
You sometimes have to be extra-clear with the folk still using
training
bindings. Nice people, and they mean well, but their lips move when
they read, if you know what I mean.

"Still using..." ??? more like "Using again..." !!!

Sorry Pinhead, but been there, done that, got the tele t-shirt and
moved on. It was fun while it lasted but why saddle myself with
inferior technology when a superior solution is available? ;-)

You probably still use a dial-up account to get your 80286 computer on
the net, dontya?

A.

Armin wrote:
Bob Lee wrote:

You sometimes have to be extra-clear with the folk still using

training

bindings. Nice people, and they mean well, but their lips move when
they read, if you know what I mean.


"Still using..." ??? more like "Using again..." !!!

Sorry Pinhead, but been there, done that, got the tele t-shirt and
moved on. It was fun while it lasted but why saddle myself with
inferior technology when a superior solution is available? ;-)

You probably still use a dial-up account to get your 80286 computer on
the net, dontya?

A.

This one gets a pretty good rise out of Klaus.

When being "picked on" by pinnahs about my "training heels"
while riding the lift...
"I didn't get to the top of the skiing food chain to
ski on equipment I thought was crappy fifty years ago."

BTW, have you seen the AT boots (Garmont, I think) with
a bellows toe for easier walking. I think that might be
what Kurt K (I think it was Kurt) was yipping about when
he said that we (ATers) had stolen their (pinnah's) boots.

In rec.skiing.alpine VtSkier wrote:

This one gets a pretty good rise out of Klaus.

When being "picked on" by pinnahs about my "training heels"
while riding the lift...
"I didn't get to the top of the skiing food chain to
ski on equipment I thought was crappy fifty years ago."

Well, maybe it's time to try again. Alpine equipment was crappy 50
years ago... A lot has happened in both worlds since then.

But anyway...The point is that being at the top of the food chain
eating raw meat may not be preferable to getting ones fill of caviar
and crackers. It's a taste thing. Not to mention that you're never at
the top. Someone will always come along and eat your lunch. Don't fool
yourself that what you have on your feet is gonna save you that.

BTW, have you seen the AT boots (Garmont, I think) with
a bellows toe for easier walking. I think that might be
what Kurt K (I think it was Kurt) was yipping about when
he said that we (ATers) had stolen their (pinnah's) boots.

It's a Scarpa F1 copy.

-klaus

klaus wrote:
In rec.skiing.alpine VtSkier wrote:


This one gets a pretty good rise out of Klaus.


When being "picked on" by pinnahs about my "training heels"
while riding the lift...
"I didn't get to the top of the skiing food chain to
ski on equipment I thought was crappy fifty years ago."


Well, maybe it's time to try again. Alpine equipment was crappy 50
years ago... A lot has happened in both worlds since then.

But anyway...The point is that being at the top of the food chain
eating raw meat may not be preferable to getting ones fill of caviar
and crackers. It's a taste thing. Not to mention that you're never at
the top. Someone will always come along and eat your lunch. Don't fool
yourself that what you have on your feet is gonna save you that.


BTW, have you seen the AT boots (Garmont, I think) with
a bellows toe for easier walking. I think that might be
what Kurt K (I think it was Kurt) was yipping about when
he said that we (ATers) had stolen their (pinnah's) boots.


It's a Scarpa F1 copy.

-klaus

Oh, gawd, this wasn't supposed to be a philosophical
thread, humor was intended. As right as you are, on
all counts, the being "picked on" was all in good fun,
and the response was similarly given.

Thanks for the Scarpa info. There was also some
pictures of the Euros who race AT in a recent Skiing
magazine (or was it Powder, I never look up these
things). These guys could probably eat all of
us for lunch, both with skiing and general all 'round
great shape.

Oh, and if you are at the top of the food chain AND
a human, you do get to cook your meat. Caviar never
turned me on.

VtSkier

In rec.skiing.alpine VtSkier wrote:

Oh, gawd, this wasn't supposed to be a philosophical
thread, humor was intended.

There's a difference?

Thanks for the Scarpa info. There was also some
pictures of the Euros who race AT in a recent Skiing
magazine (or was it Powder, I never look up these
things). These guys could probably eat all of
us for lunch, both with skiing and general all 'round
great shape.

The bellows is pretty standard in racing these days. Those World Cup
guys crank. They can beat lift riders to Gunsight Pass.

Oh, and if you are at the top of the food chain AND
a human, you do get to cook your meat.

Ahhh.. but if you are human, you are not at the top of the food chain.

Caviar never
turned me on.

It's an acquired taste.

-klaus

klaus wrote:
In rec.skiing.alpine VtSkier wrote:

Oh, gawd, this wasn't supposed to be a philosophical
thread, humor was intended.

There's a difference?

If you believe there is no difference then I bow
to your superior attunement.

Thanks for the Scarpa info. There was also some
pictures of the Euros who race AT in a recent Skiing
magazine (or was it Powder, I never look up these
things). These guys could probably eat all of
us for lunch, both with skiing and general all 'round
great shape.

The bellows is pretty standard in racing these days. Those World Cup
guys crank. They can beat lift riders to Gunsight Pass.

I can see the home-made version now. A light weight
tele boot (Garmont excursion?) with the sole toe ground
down so that it doesn't trip you up when running and
use of a Silvretta type AT binding that doesn't care
what kind of boot goes in it.

Oh, and if you are at the top of the food chain AND
a human, you do get to cook your meat.

Ahhh.. but if you are human, you are not at the top of the food chain.

Hmmm, how so? True, a tiger can eat an Indian villager,
but great white hunter will come along and kill tiger so
village will have tiger meat for a while.

Caviar never
turned me on.

It's an acquired taste.

To me it's fish eggs. We bait our hooks with it.

-klaus

Kurt Knisely wrote:

Yeabut, pinhead/cableheads *like* the telemark binding...why lock it
down? Free
yer heel, free yer wallet and all that jazz.

Hey, don't ever lock'em down.... I'd have nothing to razz you about.

'Had you switched to tele in the olden days, you'd now be getting
bashed by
Armin, BD and other AT ilk.

Nah. In the 'olden days' you might have run into me on my tele skis.
The only thing getting bashed back then were my knees... on the fronts
of my tele skis.

Mmm, I'm starting to remember why I returned from the DarkSide. ;-)

Wonderful skiing yesterday, but it was a little spooky. The only
ATer we saw
was a patroller, oh and one knuckledragger, otherwise the BC was
empty. Well,
it was dumping all day though.

Winter has finally returned here as well. 47cm since Saturday and a
high of -3C today and still snowing.

I think I feel something coming on... cough... cough. ;-)

A.

VtSkier wrote:
There was also some
pictures of the Euros who race AT in a recent Skiing
magazine (or was it Powder, I never look up these
things).

Can you check the source if possible? Coincidence abounds.

Had dinner with family and pseudo family last eve; My sister's French
ex-nanny, now married to a Lebenese current Canadian working in Silicon
Valley, said her semi-sister-in-law (i.e. the girl living with her
brother) in the Alps is/was the "world champion" AT racer a couple of
years ago. I wonder if she might be pictured/featured in your reference.
I suppose that also means Andrew knows her, which he shall probably deny
in self defense now that he's safely hitched.

Seguing into avalanches, this girl is now a "Securite" at an Alpine
resort which it turns out means she not that she is a part of Bush's
suppress-the-world outreach program but is an avalanche control
specialist. Separate from what we call "patrol." I guess the Euros have
everything wonderfully compartmentalized for which we can thank Napoleon
I believe.

Kurt Knisely wrote:

Wow, these guys are everywhere. I didn't think there were many left? Where did
you ski w/ this 10th guy? We have one here in Kamas too.

Arn't they? Chatted with this guy here at Alpine Meadows, but he wasn't
a regular. We do have some regulars from the 10th, also. This guy was in
on the tail end; arrived at Hale from basic in Arkansas near the end of
the war, so he was about 18 in 1945; never saw action - he was merely
taught to ski on the govmint dime and released into the civilian
population. Not one of Minnie's boys at all.

Reminds me of sitting one stormy morning in the warming hut after a few
blizzard runs and listening to a couple of geezers compare dates and
times before deciding that the first guy, who had been a Luftwaff
fighter pilot, had tried to shoot down the guy who had been an American
bomber pilot, since the dates of engagements matched.

lal_truckee wrote:
VtSkier wrote:

There was also some
pictures of the Euros who race AT in a recent Skiing
magazine (or was it Powder, I never look up these
things).


Can you check the source if possible? Coincidence abounds.

Lessee, I saw it around here somewhere. I think it was last
month's (March issue) of "Skiing" but not entirely sure.

Bob Lee posted:
http://www.telemarktalk.com/phpBB/vi...=6141&start=15
http://www.pawprince.com/Movies?Powderkeg_5.wmv
The first shows the boots (Scarpa F1) pretty well. I couldn't
get the Andrew page to work. Might that URL have a topo in it?

Had dinner with family and pseudo family last eve; My sister's French
ex-nanny, now married to a Lebenese current Canadian working in Silicon
Valley, said her semi-sister-in-law (i.e. the girl living with her
brother) in the Alps is/was the "world champion" AT racer a couple of
years ago. I wonder if she might be pictured/featured in your reference.
I suppose that also means Andrew knows her, which he shall probably deny
in self defense now that he's safely hitched.

Good lord, it used to be difficult when everybody was aunts, uncles,
grandparents, nieces, nephews, brothers and sisters. Isn't there a
gay couple whose relationship to the rest nobody quite understands?

My wife's family has all of those pseudo-members plus the gay
couple. All seem to be 'murican which is helpful in sorting out.

Seguing into avalanches, this girl is now a "Securite" at an Alpine
resort which it turns out means she not that she is a part of Bush's
suppress-the-world outreach program but is an avalanche control
specialist. Separate from what we call "patrol." I guess the Euros have
everything wonderfully compartmentalized for which we can thank Napoleon
I believe.

Well Napoleon was also responsible for the law codes of Louisiana,
and I haven't seen any evidence of excessive compartmentalization there.

Are you home yet? If so, how was the trip? Noticed that the snow
was following you. Good for locals, but not good for you.