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Bohemia comments, or "ouch"
Not exactly a TR, here - did 2.5 days at Mt. Bohemia over the weekend.
It went as expected; the drive was really long, there were about 4-8" of new fluff each AM, and liftlines were next to nonextistant. But what really struck me this time is how much pain that hill inflicts. At most western hills, a quick hot-tub in the evening and I'm ready to go the next AM, but one day at Bohemia and I'm ready for a cortisone bath. We've got a couple of theories- 1) the "no grooming" policy. Coupled with the absence of green runs, it means that you can never take a turn for granted. On a real mountain, we'll ski comparable terrain, but it'll be interspersed with occasional groomers (on the way down to the lodge, or just to get back to the lift, or whatever) which give a chance to throttle back and get lazy for a while. At Mt. B, you've got to be on top of your skis for just about every turn, and it adds up. Even if it's untracked, there's bumps under there. 2) The low altitude (peak is 1500'). Although it makes things easier overall, it maybe puts a bigger load on the muscles and joints? Since the lungs and heart have abundant O2, they can ask a lot more of the rest of the body. Still a riotous good time this past weekend. (ouch). Praise Ullr and pass the ibuprofen. bw |
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On 2006-02-22, bdubya penned:
liftlines were next to nonextistant. But what really struck me this time is how much pain that hill inflicts. At most western hills, a quick hot-tub in the evening and I'm ready to go the next AM, but one day at Bohemia and I'm ready for a cortisone bath. We've got a couple of theories- [snip] It's all right there where you said "liftlines were next to nonexistant." I bet you skied a lot more in a day than you're used to. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote: It's all right there where you said "liftlines were next to nonexistant." I bet you skied a lot more in a day than you're used to. Gee, I don't know...That 900' verticle. Sounds like lack of conditioning to me. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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bdubya wrote:
1) the "no grooming" policy. 2) The low altitude (peak is 1500'). Although it makes things easier overall, it maybe puts a bigger load on the muscles and joints? Since the lungs and heart have abundant O2, they can ask a lot more of the rest of the body. Still a riotous good time this past weekend. (ouch). Praise Ullr and pass the ibuprofen. Sounds like a real paradise in the US. Actually, altitude doesn't seem a big deal here, apart from Summit County. It's a huge deal there. But elsewhere, I dunno. Maybe cos I'm asthmatic ( fairly seriously), and tend to retain water, I don't notice it so much, apart from being a bit of a nuisence. In Summit, people keel over on the lower bunny hills, and often they are fit people, not fat lazy buggers like me. I think fluid and fluid retention is a biggie. -- ant |
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On 2006-02-22, Jeff Davis penned:
In article , Monique Y. Mudama wrote: It's all right there where you said "liftlines were next to nonexistant." I bet you skied a lot more in a day than you're used to. Gee, I don't know...That 900' verticle. Sounds like lack of conditioning to me. Might be. But a short vertical also means a short lift ride, and with no lift lines to speak of, that can add up to a lot of skiing. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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On 2006-02-22, ant penned:
Actually, altitude doesn't seem a big deal here, apart from Summit County. It's a huge deal there. But elsewhere, I dunno. Maybe cos I'm asthmatic ( fairly seriously), and tend to retain water, I don't notice it so much, apart from being a bit of a nuisence. In Summit, people keel over on the lower bunny hills, and often they are fit people, not fat lazy buggers like me. I think fluid and fluid retention is a biggie. Despite the fact that I hit A-Basin more often than any other ski area, it always kills me. Skiing downhill is fine, but just walking from the parking lot up the stairs to the cafeteria is way more work than it should be. And if I have to make it from the top of the "middle" lift uphill to where you can ski to King Cornice, etc ... ugh, forget it. Actually, I think even downhill, my thighs get sore more quickly at A-Basin than at lower areas. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote: On 2006-02-22, Jeff Davis penned: Gee, I don't know...That 900' verticle. Sounds like lack of conditioning to me. Might be. But a short vertical also means a short lift ride, and with no lift lines to speak of, that can add up to a lot of skiing. It's routine for me to hike a 1600' verticle for some turns. It's routine for me to hike a mile out of bounds for some turns after I've gotten off the top of the tram. And I consider myself out of shape this season. There's another thing going on here as well. Ibuprophen interferes with the body's natural repair process. Constant use of Ibuprophen to relieve muscle pain from physical exercise results in exaserbation of the lack of conditioning that causes the muscle pain in the first place. So that's the substance of my argument. Nice talking with you. -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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Monique Y. Mudama wrote: Despite the fact that I hit A-Basin more often than any other ski area, it always kills me. Skiing downhill is fine, but just walking from the parking lot up the stairs to the cafeteria is way more work than it should be. And if I have to make it from the top of the "middle" lift uphill to where you can ski to King Cornice, etc ... ugh, forget it. Actually, I think even downhill, my thighs get sore more quickly at A-Basin than at lower areas. Try running up some of those ski hills in the summer time. Thigh burn results from anerobic metabolism. In other words, lactic acid builds up because of insufficient oxygen to completely metabolize stored C6H12O6 into ATP, (adenosine tri-phosphate). The sucrosic energy is stored in the ATP molecules, and released as one of the phosphate bonds breaks. Running at altitude increases the oxygen carrying capacity of the blood stream, and increases the body's lactic acid metabolism efficacy. You should aclimatize in a summer to altitude. Your body increases the number of red blood cells in your body to compensate for thinner air. It takes 3 months for the body to compensate for altitude. A summer of mountain running should solve your conditioning problems at A-Basin. (One of my favorite ski hills). -- According to John Perry Barlow, "Jeff Davis is a truly gifted trouble-maker." |
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On 2006-02-22, Jeff Davis penned:
Try running up some of those ski hills in the summer time. Thigh burn results from anerobic metabolism. In other words, lactic acid builds up because of insufficient oxygen to completely metabolize stored C6H12O6 into ATP, (adenosine tri-phosphate). The sucrosic energy is stored in the ATP molecules, and released as one of the phosphate bonds breaks. [snip] I came into this season worse off than usual for a variety of reasons, only some of which were my fault. I don't have a time machine, so I'm doing the best I can with what I have. I've been doing a lot of squats and one-leg jumps during the week, and it seems to be helping. Also jump roping and sideways jumps. BTW, I have now heard from several sources that lactic acid is no longer believed to be the cause of muscle soreness. I forget the details, though. -- monique Longmont, CO |
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