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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 5:39*pm, pigo wrote:
I'll have to look up those skis. I don't really know what you are talking about. Are they the ones with both ends turned up? Look up Rossignol S7:s and reviews, both ends are tapered and turned up. Funky-looking things. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 5:59*pm, lal_truckee wrote:
On 10/20/10 8:18 AM, Evojeesus wrote: Well, if people have trouble dealing with other people's tracks in powder they should consider investing in modern rockered powder skis Or just learn how to ski. Dancing in the chop is fun. Last year I used 15 year old Snow Rangers I found leaning on a wall here in Truckee. Excellent skis for chop and powder (and junk and cement.) I can ski, but having to steer the stiff normal-camber ski through crappy variable snow is goddamned hard work! I've tried rockered skis and with those I can just coast through the turn since the rockered parts of the ski are already bent in the right direction - I can confidently ski a lot faster - JIIIHHAA!! And for the record, I'll never stop hip-angulating. I urge everyone to try these things before condemning them, they make everyone a better skier no matter what's the starting level. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On 10/20/2010 12:53 PM, snowbender wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:17 am, wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... The answer is no. Nevertheless, new way for powder skiing, try teleboarding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HnaOGRM1Y snowbender If there were to be any form of snowboarding I might try, this would be it. I like the stance looking down the hill, the shape to the board and THE USE OF POLES. I don't care for what looks like there would be some lesser amount of edge available than with my two skis. and then... a) I've been aware of teleboards since about 1998. b) That guy stole my jacket. See other pics you took. It might be really neat for powder and RealSnow(tm). I also like the fairly narrow width of the board. These things are so unlike monoskis which are usually tapered from shovel to tail with little or now side cut. The teleboards are turned up at both ends and have a fair amount of sidecut. Vt |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
snowbender wrote:
On Oct 20, 3:17 am, Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... The answer is no. Nevertheless, new way for powder skiing, try teleboarding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HnaOGRM1Y I don't see any powder. Please show us a video of this rig in bottomless powder. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:17:42 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus
wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...skis-cheating/ I don't think so, golf equipment continues to evolve allowing poorer players to become longer hitters, however IMHO equipment advances will not compensate for the lack of skill |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 21, 7:22*am, Dick G wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:17:42 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... I don't think so, golf equipment continues to evolve allowing poorer players *to become longer hitters, however IMHO equipment advances will not compensate for the lack of skill For one thing "longer hitting" is only part of the equation. I've got friends that can hit 280/300..............IN THE WRONG DIRECTION !!! I'm much better off at 250 in the fairway. The other thing is that the improvements in golf work throughout the curve. As those at the lower end of the scale get better, so do those at the upper end. Not so for skiing. It actually gets worse for those of us at the upper ability levels. The "scary" places a few of us used to go and get to ourselves are now packed with the "less qualified". Places I used to count on for fresh snow are now crowded with sitters and side slippers that have no idea. |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 1:41 pm, VtSkier wrote:
On 10/20/2010 12:53 PM, snowbender wrote: On Oct 20, 3:17 am, wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... The answer is no. Nevertheless, new way for powder skiing, try teleboarding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HnaOGRM1Y snowbender If there were to be any form of snowboarding I might try, this would be it. I like the stance looking down the hill, the shape to the board and THE USE OF POLES. Actually, we were talking about doing it without poles; but for now poles have saved the day. I don't care for what looks like there would be some lesser amount of edge available than with my two skis. and then... Lesser edge means lesser hookups; this thing actually does Flatboarding/tm. a) I've been aware of teleboards since about 1998. I have used that technique earlier than that, but only aware of it when my friend showed up with ONE ski, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QTwA-rmAFE b) That guy stole my jacket. See other pics you took. The guy is actually she, a Heavenly local, and a ski fanatic; she plays more than ten different kind of sliding devices on and off the snow. She has actually made a pair of rocker skis out of the rocker runners of "double deckers" herself when the rocker skis just came off the market. It might be really neat for powder and RealSnow(tm). I also like the fairly narrow width of the board. These things are so unlike monoskis which are usually tapered from shovel to tail with little or now side cut. The teleboards are turned up at both ends and have a fair amount of sidecut. Hers is actually only an oversized ski; the marketed teleboards are normally wider. It looks fun; if I were not at my age I would actually get one to play it. The spirit of Taichi Skiing is to pursue skiing with the "simplest mean/technique/device," and I think for skiing there's nothing simpler than teleboarding setup any more. To me, that is an "ultimate" skiing. snowbender Vt |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 20, 5:24 pm, "Bob F" wrote:
snowbender wrote: On Oct 20, 3:17 am, Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... The answer is no. Nevertheless, new way for powder skiing, try teleboarding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HnaOGRM1Y I don't see any powder. Please show us a video of this rig in bottomless powder. Well, it is actually a water skiing technique; if it works on water, it'd work in powder. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diKD08dqj0I and more, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in1c6bB4b5M snowbender |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On Oct 21, 8:09*am, pigo wrote:
On Oct 21, 7:22*am, Dick G wrote: On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:17:42 -0700 (PDT), Evojeesus wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk.... I don't think so, golf equipment continues to evolve allowing poorer players *to become longer hitters, however IMHO equipment advances will not compensate for the lack of skill For one thing "longer hitting" is only part of the equation. I've got friends that can hit 280/300..............IN THE WRONG DIRECTION !!! I'm much better off at 250 in the fairway. The other thing is that the improvements in golf work throughout the curve. As those at the lower end of the scale get better, so do those at the upper end. Not so for skiing. It actually gets worse for those of us at the upper ability levels. The "scary" places a few of us used to go and get to ourselves are now packed with the "less qualified". Places I used to count on for fresh snow are now crowded with sitters and side slippers that have no idea. Ah, the arrogance of Brain Fried Bob Thompson, which shows his ridiculous sense of entitlement. No wonder he skis at Alta, where assholes who believe they own the mountain congregate in large numbers. There is a reason Alta is famed far and wide as the home of the rudest locals in the skiing world....and Bob Thompson proves the theory. More and more people can enjoy what Tea Party Bob thinks is his private stash, and that is a bad thing? Not for the rest of us. Only for this self centered, arrogant ppppuuuussssyyyy. One thing for sure. The Cabin at Deer Valley is the "scary" place for this coward. Not man enough to show up two years in a row...... |
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Is skiing reverse camber-rocker tips skis cheating?
On 10/21/2010 11:18 AM, snowbender wrote:
On Oct 20, 1:41 pm, wrote: On 10/20/2010 12:53 PM, snowbender wrote: On Oct 20, 3:17 am, wrote: http://www.tetonat.com/2009/07/is-sk...rocker-tips-sk... The answer is no. Nevertheless, new way for powder skiing, try teleboarding, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-HnaOGRM1Y snowbender If there were to be any form of snowboarding I might try, this would be it. I like the stance looking down the hill, the shape to the board and THE USE OF POLES. Actually, we were talking about doing it without poles; but for now poles have saved the day. I bet. I don't care for what looks like there would be some lesser amount of edge available than with my two skis. and then... Lesser edge means lesser hookups; this thing actually does Flatboarding/tm. Lesser edge means less control on EasternFirm(tm) Which is why I said I might try it on RealSnow(tm) Tell you what, for EasternFirm(tm) I'm going to be on my edges or on my ass. a) I've been aware of teleboards since about 1998. I have used that technique earlier than that, but only aware of it when my friend showed up with ONE ski, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QTwA-rmAFE b) That guy stole my jacket. See other pics you took. The guy is actually she, a Heavenly local, and a ski fanatic; she plays more than ten different kind of sliding devices on and off the snow. She has actually made a pair of rocker skis out of the rocker runners of "double deckers" herself when the rocker skis just came off the market. Okay, SHE stole my jacket. It might be really neat for powder and RealSnow(tm). I also like the fairly narrow width of the board. These things are so unlike monoskis which are usually tapered from shovel to tail with little or now side cut. The teleboards are turned up at both ends and have a fair amount of sidecut. Hers is actually only an oversized ski; the marketed teleboards are normally wider. It looks fun; if I were not at my age I would actually get one to play it. The spirit of Taichi Skiing is to pursue skiing with the "simplest mean/technique/device," and I think for skiing there's nothing simpler than teleboarding setup any more. To me, that is an "ultimate" skiing. The marketed teleboards that I've seen look almost exactly like what she is on, much narrower than conventional snowboards, and remember, when I first saw this, REALLY WIDE skis weren't available (1998). snowbender Vt |
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